[SmartyBeardo]

The picture painted by Ben Thompson of Manny Pacquiao is of a completely naive dunce. I don't quite buy it. Why can't he ask Alex Ariza his thoughts on the subject? Not saying Ben Thompson is trying to be misleading to get at Bob Arum, but I don't feel like I'm getting a complete picture. Who convinced Manny to hire VisionQwest in the first place? And why can't this person convince Manny that Arum and Koncz are misleading him regarding VisionQwest? I mean, why hire them in the first place if it wasn't out of a mistrust of Koncz and Arum? Why would he suddenly believe Koncz without getting someone else's opinion? Is Manny really so indifferent regarding his business decisions? And, if so, why hire VisionQwest in the first place?

I agree that we don't have the complete picture, but we would have much less of the picture if not for thehype's work. I subscribe to Method's wait and see stance.

[Eighty88Eight]

I agree that we don't have the complete picture, but we would have much less of the picture if not for thehype's work. I subscribe to Method's wait and see stance.

Well, there isn't much of a choice is there? I'm going to sit here and clutch my cock until Hype updates his made-up VisionGate drama.

[Cshel86]

Where there's smoke, there's fire...as they say. If Pacquiao's fine with what he is making, then hats off to him. We all know promoters are supposed to make money off of a fighter, but some do rip the fighters off if the opportunity presents itself (i.e. a fighter doesn't read or thoroughly understand the terms of the contract, etc).

[thehype]

Why can't he ask Alex Ariza his thoughts on the subject?

I have. Some things are said on the record, and some things are said off the record. I discuss what I can...and what I can't discuss, I just let you guys fill in whatever blanks you want.

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To answer one of your questions, however, according to Michael Koncz, he was the one who hired VisionQwest last year I believe.

To answer another one of your questions, from what people tell me, he IS pretty indifferent regarding his business decisions. From what I've been told by several people, he spends more time at the casino than worrying about making business decisions. That's just what I'm told though from people who I speak to that are around him. Freddie Roach seems to think that Manny is broke. I've been told by a few other people that he's had to ask Arum for advancements. It's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

[Allmenjoi8]

I have. Some things are said on the record, and some things are said off the record. I discuss what I can...and what I can't discuss, I just let you guys fill in whatever blanks you want.

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To answer one of your questions, however, according to Michael Koncz, he was the one who hired VisionQwest last year I believe.

To answer another one of your questions, from what people tell me, he IS pretty indifferent regarding his business decisions. From what I've been told by several people, he spends more time at the casino than worrying about making business decisions. That's just what I'm told though from people who I speak to that are around him. Freddie Roach seems to think that Manny is broke. I've been told by a few other people that he's had to ask Arum for advancements. It's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

All he has to do is fight Mayweather and he will have 50 million American dollars to gamble. 50 million is more than he has now. So maybe his low funds will force the fight that everyone wants to see.

[Eighty88Eight]

I have. Some things are said on the record, and some things are said off the record. I discuss what I can...and what I can't discuss, I just let you guys fill in whatever blanks you want.

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To answer one of your questions, however, according to Michael Koncz, he was the one who hired VisionQwest last year I believe.

To answer another one of your questions, from what people tell me, he IS pretty indifferent regarding his business decisions. From what I've been told by several people, he spends more time at the casino than worrying about making business decisions. That's just what I'm told though from people who I speak to that are around him. Freddie Roach seems to think that Manny is broke. I've been told by a few other people that he's had to ask Arum for advancements. It's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

that boggles my mind if its true. hopefully he's indifferent about being broke too.

if you say it's true, i tend to believe you. but why would Koncz hire VisionQwest?

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[Method]

I have. Some things are said on the record, and some things are said off the record. I discuss what I can...and what I can't discuss, I just let you guys fill in whatever blanks you want.

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To answer one of your questions, however, according to Michael Koncz, he was the one who hired VisionQwest last year I believe.

To answer another one of your questions, from what people tell me, he IS pretty indifferent regarding his business decisions. From what I've been told by several people, he spends more time at the casino than worrying about making business decisions. That's just what I'm told though from people who I speak to that are around him. Freddie Roach seems to think that Manny is broke. I've been told by a few other people that he's had to ask Arum for advancements. It's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

That Koncz guy seems shifty as fuck.