[daprofessor]

i remember sugar ray leonard saying u never hear the word contender in boxing anymore

i remember ray leonard being a big part of what was wrong with boxing.

[Franchize]

i remember ray leonard being a big part of what was wrong with boxing.

I remember him having more stipulations for the Hagler fight than Floyd could dream of.

[Franchize]

the minute a fighter/promoter/manager feels that the new system doesn't benefit them or discriminates against them...there will be someone branching off to do their own thing...and we'll be right back where we started. boxing is a world wide sport. our world isn't governed by one entity....i seriously doubt boxing will ever be governed by one entity either.

Uniformity doesnt have to mean you have to have a dictatorship. Countries have different forms of currency but theres a way of determining which ones are worth more. There should be an agreed upon set of rules, regulations and penalties to consider yourself a pro fighter. If it only extends to the US, fine...but then whoever doesnt comply, foreign or not, cant box on American soil.

[daprofessor]

I remember him having more stipulations for the Hagler fight than Pac could dream of.

fixed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[daprofessor]

Uniformity doesnt have to mean you have to have a dictatorship. Countries have different forms of currency but theres a way of determining which ones are worth more. There should be an agreed upon set of rules, regulations and penalties to consider yourself a pro fighter. If it only extends to the US, fine...but then whoever doesnt comply, foreign or not, cant box on American soil.

and that's where the problem lies...ppl do not want to be dictated to and there is always someone who will feel the rules are unfair or should not apply. it's nice to have options.

look at sturm. the guy comes to u.s. soil and is blatantly robbed when he fought dlh. can u blame him for not wanting to ever come back? he's been sitting on that title in germany for quite some time now.

[Franchize]

and that's where the problem lies...ppl do not want to be dictated to and there is always someone who will feel the rules are unfair or should not apply. it's nice to have options.

look at sturm. the guy comes to u.s. soil and is blatantly robbed when he fought dlh. can u blame him for not wanting to ever come back? he's been sitting on that title in germany for quite some time now.

Yea but that's because there wasn't a proper governing body. If you have a neutral body with nothing to gain, you lessen these bogus scorecards. Much like with VADA and drug testing. Is it going completely quell the dilemma? probably not. But I'll take my chances over judges with no real horse in the race. Same thing with the situation with Magarito getting a license to fight. It shouldnt be as simple as being able to go to another state.

[daprofessor]

Yea but that's because there wasn't a proper governing body. If you have a neutral body with nothing to gain, you lessen these bogus scorecards. Much like with VADA and drug testing. Is it going completely quell the dilemma? probably not. But I'll take my chances over judges with no real horse in the race. Same thing with the situation with Magarito getting a license to fight. It shouldnt be as simple as being able to go to another state.

ur right. sometimes the pessimist in me takes over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) it has to start somewhere. vada is a great example of that. i'm not totally sold on it because of the voluntary thing...but i believe it works to a certain extent. maybe ppl will be shamed into doing the right thing? but then i remember guys like bob arum, margarito, texas boxing commission....and plenty of others have absolutely no shame. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[mgrover]

i think someone should take bob arum outside and put a bullet in his head, and that's that. after that you can watch the world of boxing open up. The walls separating top rank fighters and golden boy fighters will fall. The minor boxing promoters like Lou DiBella all seems like fairly stand up guys just trying to get the best for there fighters. Sure some need to retire, good ol Don King.

[Cheesey1]

Since I like hearing the sound of my own voice, I'll say it again (well I guess "since I like reading my own thoughts" is more accurate).

The FIFA model (soccer) is the best model for boxing. There's an international governing body, which co-ordinates with and supercedes every local body from CAF (in Africa) to UEFA (in Europe) and MLS (North America), as well as the Asian football body.

Of course some changes will need to be made e.g. obviously you don't have teams in boxing, but IMO the general concept would work. FIFA isn't perfect and they've had their fair share of corruption issues, but overall, the FIFA model is a clear success.

[bnoles4life]

Since I like hearing the sound of my own voice, I'll say it again (well I guess "since I like reading my own thoughts" is more accurate).

The FIFA model (soccer) is the best model for boxing. There's an international governing body, which co-ordinates with and supercedes every local body from CAF (in Africa) to UEFA (in Europe) and MLS (North America), as well as the Asian football body.

Of course some changes will need to be made e.g. obviously you don't have teams in boxing, but IMO the general concept would work. FIFA isn't perfect and they've had their fair share of corruption issues, but overall, the FIFA model is a clear success.

Good post, Cheesey!!!! That's exactly the direction I was going, though admittedly, FIFA didn't come to mind. Boxing, particularly in the U.S., would operate under ONE governing body, but with a component in each state (or at least one that desires one...I mean, not many fights in Montana).

Oh yeah......it ain't easy.....