[daprofessor]

Yep, ironic. Dont worry, Freddie will just gravitate more towards Julio and Khan will be #3 from now on.

u know what sucks? vanes left the wildcard a few years back because he wasn't getting any attention from freddie. he was in houston with ronnie shields. he ends up back in l.a. and freddie forces him to sign an contract/agreement. i don't go to that gym as much as i used to...but the few times i did go, i never saw him working with freddie. in his prep for the ouma fight....i saw ariza supervising his sparring. not sure what it's like now...but i wouldn't be surprised if he was working with someone else. the wildcard...much like hollywood itself....is filled with ppl waiting to be chosen. smh.

[Cshel86]

u know what sucks? vanes left the wildcard a few years back because he wasn't getting any attention from freddie. he was in houston with ronnie shields. he ends up back in l.a. and freddie forces him to sign an contract/agreement. i don't go to that gym as much as i used to...but the few times i did go, i never saw him working with freddie. in his prep for the ouma fight....i saw ariza supervising his sparring. not sure what it's like now...but i wouldn't be surprised if he was working with someone else. the wildcard...much like hollywood itself....is filled with ppl waiting to be chosen. smh.

Honestly, fame has gotten Roach to this level as of the past 4 years. As you made a point of last week, the guys in his stable have came up off of good matchmaking, but when they run into somebody with a solid chance, they fall short. Half of the time, those fighters are overlooked from jump.

Vanes is a decent fighter, but as you said, he did the right thing by leaving. Why did this dude come back? Who knows. I saw that clip of him sparking Julio up in sparring, lol. Funny stuff.

[BigFightFan]

SURE KHAN! Let's blame it all on roach, it's never your fault.

[neophyte7]

Khan just got knocked the fuck out... he needs to shut the fuck up and get back in the gym...

[Franchize]

Khan just got knocked the fuck out... he needs to shut the fuck up and get back in the gym...

I dont think he's not taking ownership of that. I think this is like a cry for help honestly lol He's screaming "MAKE ME A BOXER PLEASE" lol. Freddy Roach fighters are like the guys at the NFL combine who are just freakish athletes. They have tons of talent but not much skill. Theres a difference. If you wrote Khan's physical attributes and talents on a paper, you'd think he was a phenomenal fighter. However, he hasn't honed his talents and made them skills. It's encouragin that he recognizes exactly what needs to be worked on. Its up to Freddy whether he'll work on em or say fuck Amir, Manny is my guy and I'm a Hall of Famer doing exactly what I've been doing.

[daprofessor]

SURE KHAN! Let's blame it all on roach, it's never your fault.

if he fires roach then view it as him blaming him....if he stays....that's taking personal responsibility.

[neophyte7]

I dont think he's not taking ownership of that. I think this is like a cry for help honestly lol He's screaming "MAKE ME A BOXER PLEASE" lol. Freddy Roach fighters are like the guys at the NFL combine who are just freakish athletes. They have tons of talent but not much skill. Theres a difference. If you wrote Khan's physical attributes and talents on a paper, you'd think he was a phenomenal fighter. However, he hasn't honed his talents and made them skills. It's encouragin that he recognizes exactly what needs to be worked on. Its up to Freddy whether he'll work on em or say fuck Amir, Manny is my guy and I'm a Hall of Famer doing exactly what I've been doing.

Well said.. The guy has dimensions but fights like an amateur... No defense.. hell he even did not have the instincts to clinch.. Had he clinched and gathered himself rather than try to stand in fight he may have survived.....

[boxingloner]

he must be reading my posts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

amir...give me a call. i'll get ur defense right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yea, give him a call. He's a self proclaimed trainer of 35+ years, at least thats what he says on the message board. If it really is true give out your name and credtials. He's trained champions, olympians and the who's who of boxings best. And he has connections. LOL. What a joke. This has got to be the funniest post in a while.

[mgrover]

reminds of an amatuer gym here was have burmantofts amature boxing club, so much bullshit politics goes on in that place, and only if you have talent and a name people will actually look in your direction

[daprofessor]

Yea, give him a call. He's a self proclaimed trainer of 35+ years, at least thats what he says on the message board. If it really is true give out your name and credtials. He's trained champions, olympians and the who's who of boxings best. And he has connections. LOL. What a joke. This has got to be the funniest post in a while.

thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)