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post Nov 15 2008, 10:41 AM
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First let me start off by saying Kostya Tszyu was a bad man in his prime. He had an awesome right hand. He had a good jab. He was a good counter-punching. He was a boxer with power. I don't think I ever saw him in much slugfests. When he won, he usually dominated fights. He was a DOMINANT champion who beat anyone they put in front of him. He beat Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie, Jesse James Leija, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Jake Rodriguez, Julio Cesar Chavez (old), Roger Mayweather (old), Otkay Urkal, Disobleys Hurtado, Rafael Ruelas, Calvin Grove, Livingstone Bramble, Juan LaPorte (old), Jan Piet Bergman.

Hell of a resume and great fighter. Maybe the greatest Australian fighter? Not to mention, a very classy individual, who never talked much trash at all.

Kostya Tszyu was once in the top 5 (or top 3) P4P after his sensational performance against Sharmba Mitchell.

But Kostya never got a fight with the other stars around his weight..like..

-Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Tszyu lost to Hatton and retired before he could fight Floyd)
-Shane Mosley (I don't think this was ever discussed? Would have been an awesome fight)
-Oscar De La Hoya (I think this was discussed in the past but fell apart when Tszyu got upset by Phillips?)
-Miguel Cotto (Was only a prospect in Tszyu's time on top)
-Vernon Forrest (Tszyu has a win over Forrest in the amateurs. I don't think this was ever discussed...but would've been a hell of a fight like...6-8 years ago)

What do you think?
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post Nov 15 2008, 10:59 AM
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Tszyu is my favorite out of all those names you listed....

He was a fighter's fighter.

What Hatton and Parris did in Manchester was a travesty of Justice...he didn't deserve to get fucked like that....
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post Nov 15 2008, 07:08 PM
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you know that Mosley jumped 2 weight classes and skipped 140.
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post Nov 15 2008, 07:11 PM
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a more interesting question would be why little Floyd never fought Joel Casamayor......;
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post Nov 15 2008, 07:48 PM
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I would have liked to have seen him fight some of the stars you mentioned, but when Mayweather moved to 140 and just beat Gatti, Tszyu lost to Hatton soon after. Mosley skipped 140, DLH was fighting above 140 later on, and Cotto was green and wasn't getting in the ring with Tszyu any time soon.
One of the few cases where you can say the top guys around the weight were "avoided".
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post Nov 15 2008, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(The C.E.O. @ Nov 15 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]411121[/snapback]
Tszyu is my favorite out of all those names you listed....

He was a fighter's fighter.

What Hatton and Parris did in Manchester was a travesty of Justice...he didn't deserve to get fucked like that....


And when that prick Jim Gray was being classless while interviewing him(i think that was after the Hatton fight). Kostya should have pulled a James Toney and knocked the mike out of that Gray's hand.

I loved Tszyu, he was exciting to watch and he was humble outside the ring. That fight with Hatton had me steaming. I thought for sure Hatton was going to lose. Of all the fighters you mentioned, Kostya at his best could have beating any of them. We will never know though.
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post Nov 15 2008, 09:05 PM
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Kostya Tszyu was a bitch, Zab would have fucked him up if that jerk-off ref didn't screw him. Fuck Jay Nady
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post Nov 15 2008, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(rusty_trombone @ Nov 15 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]411206[/snapback]
Kostya Tszyu was a bitch, Zab would have fucked him up if that jerk-off ref didn't screw him. Fuck Jay Nady


Must be sarcasm? Yeah?
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post Nov 15 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(Maxy @ Nov 15 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]411208[/snapback]
Must be sarcasm? Yeah?

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post Nov 16 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(biggeorge89 @ Nov 15 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]411120[/snapback]
First let me start off by saying Kostya Tszyu was a bad man in his prime. He had an awesome right hand. He had a good jab. He was a good counter-punching. He was a boxer with power. I don't think I ever saw him in much slugfests. When he won, he usually dominated fights. He was a DOMINANT champion who beat anyone they put in front of him. He beat Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell, Ben Tackie, Jesse James Leija, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Jake Rodriguez, Julio Cesar Chavez (old), Roger Mayweather (old), Otkay Urkal, Disobleys Hurtado, Rafael Ruelas, Calvin Grove, Livingstone Bramble, Juan LaPorte (old), Jan Piet Bergman.

Hell of a resume and great fighter. Maybe the greatest Australian fighter? Not to mention, a very classy individual, who never talked much trash at all.

Kostya Tszyu was once in the top 5 (or top 3) P4P after his sensational performance against Sharmba Mitchell.

But Kostya never got a fight with the other stars around his weight..like..

-Floyd Mayweather Jr. (Tszyu lost to Hatton and retired before he could fight Floyd)
-Shane Mosley (I don't think this was ever discussed? Would have been an awesome fight)
-Oscar De La Hoya (I think this was discussed in the past but fell apart when Tszyu got upset by Phillips?)
-Miguel Cotto (Was only a prospect in Tszyu's time on top)
-Vernon Forrest (Tszyu has a win over Forrest in the amateurs. I don't think this was ever discussed...but would've been a hell of a fight like...6-8 years ago)

What do you think?

Doesn't matter AT ALL..Tszyu's greatness is not even questionable..Floyd had more respect for Tszyu than anyone around his weight I remember hearing..Cotto wasn't really around long enough when Tszyu was around to get a title shot..Tszyu got out of boxing at the right time..The guys you named would of been good fights though..Mayweather,DLH,and Mosley would of been the best guys of the ones you named though during Tsyzu's reign..I wouldn't give any of those 3 any strong advantage over Tszyu..He was so versatile which is why ya can't give anyone a real advantage over post-Phillips Tszyu..
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