[Tha Docta]

i also believe that this stripper didnt need any help killing gatti. you dont need to be strong to choke a man that is passed out drunk. especially after clocking him over the head with something. let this be a lesson to everybody, dont marry strippers.

[BGv2.0]

i also believe that this stripper didnt need any help killing gatti. you dont need to be strong to choke a man that is passed out drunk. especially after clocking him over the head with something. let this be a lesson to everybody, dont marry strippers.

Well...and it's simple leverage. If you think about it....the space between the wall and the wood stair beam is pretty small....even a small whore could brace her back against the wall...and then brace her feet against the wood plank on the other side....and then pull with all her body weight with her legs fully planted.

She might not be able to hold onto a man Gatti's size for an hour or more...but it only takes a few seconds to get the job done.

I'm more inclined to think she got male help...but....a money grubbing stripper whore could pull it off knowing what amount was at stake.

[JLUVBABY]

Glad this topic was brought up.

NOBODY should be questioning Baden...the guy has decades of expertise in the area of post mordem studies. The LAPD has always hated him because he did not go in there and cover up for their TOTAL INEPT handling of that case.

The guy is about as level handed as one can get when it comes to questions related to post mortem situations/senerios.

That being said....some of the things he brings up is common sense. A BAC is common in any case that involves homicide....with this case being ruled a homicide at the outset...there is no valid excuse for that simple test not being conducted.

NOW....based on what I saw in the story.

First of all...the sheer amount of blood.....there is so damn much it's filling up the damn motar lines between the floor tiles....that's a LOT of blood for a supposed small non leathal head wound. If you look at the towel that they claim Gatti used to "dab" the blood on his head.....it would have been pure crimson if the same amount he lost on the floor was what he was dabbing at.

That shit totally does not wash.

Also....for the Detective to simply dismiss that the GF could not have gotten anybody to help her because that "had only been there for a short time and knew nobody" (something along those lines)....the jackoff must have forgotten that this was her HOMETOWN!

I don't know about most of you....but I have tons of contacts in my "hometown"...a few of which I've known for years and would help me do quite a bit of shifty shit...if I so chose to.....this girl is no different than the rest of us....

to act as if she could not possibly have any contacts in that town is simply BS.

I'm also curious as to if they actually tested any of the blood they found on the upstairs bedroom....they just sort of toss it out as fact that the blood on the bed was the whores...BUT...is that a FACT? Was that tested against both their blood to insure that as a fact?

Also...the legature marks on the neck absolutely do NOT match up with that purse strap....NOW...I do believe that the balistics test that showed the purse strap had been use don the stairs is legit....BUT...how hard would it be to kill the guy via choke with a rope...and THEN do a mock purse strap hanging post mortem to throw cops off? You just make sure you leave with the real noose and your off.

Also....as with any shifty motive....$$$$$

The guy signed her off for all his money 3 weeks prior....and she was a F'N STRIPPER before they met....is there any real question as to IF she had motive....

anybody who has dated a stripper KNOWS what I'm talking about!


IMHO....there are way too many question marks and way too much money at stake for this one to be an open and shut suicide.

And let's not forget this took place in Brazil.....a 3rd world country whose cops AND detectives are not above a nice fat payoff.

damn... this was a good read... lol..

[salvador]

Really great show.

My only complaint about the show/journalism on it was the photos of Gatti's dead body. I thought that was an unnecessary invasion of privacy.

[Snoop]

Really great show.

My only complaint about the show/journalism on it was the photos of Gatti's dead body. I thought that was an unnecessary invasion of privacy.

Good point. I was shocked that they showed those photos. Really disturbing.

[Method]

damn... this was a good read... lol..

A lot of great points, JLuv. Don't forget that this bitch came down to Brazil DAYS before Gatti got there. This could have EASILY been arranged w plenty of time to spare...ESPECIALLY w the promise of money to those shady motherfuckers down in Brazil. If you pass out drunk down there, you'll wake up on a bed of ice with your liver and kidneys missing (and likely already sold on the black market.

Also, JL, remember that they did a forensic test with the strap holding the equivalent of Gatti's weight, and it laster mere seconds before it snapped. The Brazilian police claimed Gatti hung for HOURS.

I dont know if any of you saw the video of Valero dead in his cell that was posted by the boys over at Maxboxing, but that cat hung himself and there was NO blood. As you astutely point out, JLuv, Arturo was in a fucking POOL of that shit. getting hit in the head w rocks does NOT create gushing wounds like that. Instead you get the kinds of wound that swell, and bleed from a small wound from the swelling. I've been hit in the head with rocks or hard objects before and I have seen guys get hit. you just dont bleed like that.

I'll forever not believe that bitch is innocent. That ear to ear smile she had on her face as she was released from jail - that bitch acted like she was walking the red carpet to the Oscars. She DEFINITELY DID NOT have the look of a grieving widow who had lost her beloved husband and was overly stressed from the ordeal of being imprisoned.

I've spent 48 hours in the Tombs in NYC, and trust me, when you get out, yeah, you're relieved, but you're not shit-eating-grinning.