[Snoop]

I wasnt aware of Sauerlands angle either, which kinda goes towards proving my original point. Mick Hennessy didnt market it that way for Froch, just the Sauerland team whose fighters and fanbase are in mainland Europe. Maybe thats how they see things, but im not them, thats all i'm sayin. Im not aware of anyone on this board from mainland Europe, and if there is, there pretty quiet!!

And also CEO, cheers, im privileged to know you and everyone else on this board who have made it the first website I look at when im supposed to be working!

Co-sign on that. Sometimes I only get 2 hrs of work done in an 8hr work day because of this site. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Lil-lightsout]

Dude save the cursing. No need to try and come at my like you are going to whip me or something. I watched the fight several times over. Of course we can see it from our view point. I have no idea how Arthur saw it from his view point. I am not making excuses for anyone. I know that you are suppose to protect yourself at all times. Period! Save the wolf tickets and calm down. My comments have been rational unlike you trying to insult me. If you don't like my remarks. I am cool with anyone disagreeing with me but I am not going to say that anyone has made a stupid remark. I am going to state my case with respect and agree that we disagree.

Everyone's opinion is valid as far as I am concerned. Everyone on this board has a opinion and I love to read what others have to say even if I don't agree with it. There are points that Jack 1000 made that I didn't think of at the time. It's all good though. I am not here to have a flame war - I did that back in the old days. I would rather trade thoughts and opinions and have fun on this board.

Next.

LOL. "like you are going to whip me". Okay...whatever.

Everybody curses on this site, don't take it personal. To me it is just ridiculous how you mentioned how Dirrell should have protected himself when he was down with his hands on the canvas after slipping, there is no way he could have put his hands up in time to "protect himself".

So to me that is a "stupid remark" you made. You are the only one I recall mentioning it. I just do not see how it was possible to get his hands up that quick. So don't take offense to me thinking your remark was stupid, cause you will hear alot of that around here. Everybody disagree's and argues about stuff all the time, and I get insulted sometimes,it's just everyody got there own opinions.

Liked your "Next" line, very cool and catchy.

But to make you feel better, I retract everything I said and will put it a better way for you. I respectfully disagree with your assessment on your stance of "protect yourself at all times" in this giving situation. I feel Dirrell did not have the proper amount of time to get his hands up to protect himself as his gloves were on the canvas, when AA sucker punched him due to frustration of losing badly the first ten rounds. Though we disagree on this situation, it is okay, and we can still be civil. You are correct, I do not want a flame war either.

[Guest_Fitz_*]

Just watched the fight. Dirrell was really impressive and I can give him credit where I believe he fought better. I was very critical of him against Froch and thought he was cowardly, though he was more aggressive in this fight. Very good performance by him.
Abraham on the other hand is always a slow starter and too inactive early and it cost him on this one. It always seems like he is content to give away early rounds and play catch up because he always expects to finally get them later. It pays off a lot most of the time, but it seemed costly yesterday.
He needs to show a bit more aggression early. He was doing much better later when he started to come in behind punches rather than cover up early. That's his style and has worked for him in the past, yesterday it didn't benefit him.
I also thought the refereeing was absolutely terrible. Dirrell only gets warnings from multiple low blows, he gets put down and is ruled a slip and I think it was later in the fight in about round 9. Abraham had Dirrell on the ropes and was going at him and had him in a good position. The referee pulls them apart to warn Abraham (not sure as I watched a german telecast) for what it appeared to be a warning for holding out his left hand which looked like it was used as a measuring stick. What the hell was that?
I haven't seen any thing after the fight, the post fight interviews or anything like that. I literally turned it off after it finished, but it looked like Dirrell was milking it from what I saw. He gets hit, it then looks like something registers as he is fine for a second, and then closes his eyes and drops to his side.
That's just from how the punch and the reaction looked. Not saying he did or didn't as I don't know, but that's how it looked from what I saw.

[ROLL DEEP]

I've only seen the knockout and it seems like Dirrel was out pretty bad.


The punch caught him right on the chin when he was down. It was one of those that made the top of his head spin to the side.


I personally don't think he was play acting - he looked pretty fucked up to me. At first I thought he was, but after watching it a few more times, the punch seems to land sweet and the camera shows his breathing seems a little messed up when he's on the floor too.


Not seen much else of the fight though so can't comment, apart from the tiny bit I saw, but Dirrel seemed to a little more aggressive with his punches....he seemed to be sitting down on them more than the Froch fight.

[MarzB]

Dirrell only gets warnings from multiple low blows, he gets put down and is ruled a slip and I think it was later in the fight in about round 9. Abraham had Dirrell on the ropes and was going at him and had him in a good position. The referee pulls them apart to warn Abraham (not sure as I watched a german telecast) for what it appeared to be a warning for holding out his left hand which looked like it was used as a measuring stick. What the hell was that?

All that is a wash and I'll use round 7 as an example which "can" be a synopsis of the fight of sorts.

At the beginning of Round 7 Direll slipped in the same corner where Cole had them wipe it. I've heard various commentators comment on this and I think it needs to be said. There are certain type of logos that maybe should be reconsidered in the boxing ring.

The logo where Direll slipped here its circular is one that I think should be outlawed or not plastered on top of the canvas but be part of the canvas if it's absolutely needed.

Anyways in that same round 7 Abraham threw Direll down midpoint in the fight. The first sign of him being frustrated. Direll is pretty much using Abraham's forward aggression against him and at the end of the round he nails him with a left that sent him into the ropes. Clear knockdown but like I said, thats a wash because Abraham didn't get credited with his knockdown either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLYFzJ9J6lI...feature=related

This post has been edited by MarzB: Mar 29 2010, 06:11 AM

[D-MARV]

Fitz, That ref was terrible but lets not act like only Abe got the short end of the stick... Dirrell wasn't credit with a clear KD when he throw a counter left hook and sent Abe flying into the ropes. Also (I forgot the round), Dirrell landed a MASSIVE counter left (best punch of the fight) and the ref immediately stepped in to get Arthur's eye checked. I thought that was straight bullshit. The low blows that Dirrell was warned for were also questionable. The ref sucked but it went both ways.

[Spyder]

Just watched the fight. Dirrell was really impressive and I can give him credit where I believe he fought better. I was very critical of him against Froch and thought he was cowardly, though he was more aggressive in this fight. Very good performance by him.
Abraham on the other hand is always a slow starter and too inactive early and it cost him on this one. It always seems like he is content to give away early rounds and play catch up because he always expects to finally get them later. It pays off a lot most of the time, but it seemed costly yesterday.
He needs to show a bit more aggression early. He was doing much better later when he started to come in behind punches rather than cover up early. That's his style and has worked for him in the past, yesterday it didn't benefit him.
I also thought the refereeing was absolutely terrible. Dirrell only gets warnings from multiple low blows, he gets put down and is ruled a slip and I think it was later in the fight in about round 9. Abraham had Dirrell on the ropes and was going at him and had him in a good position. The referee pulls them apart to warn Abraham (not sure as I watched a german telecast) for what it appeared to be a warning for holding out his left hand which looked like it was used as a measuring stick. What the hell was that?I haven't seen any thing after the fight, the post fight interviews or anything like that. I literally turned it off after it finished, but it looked like Dirrell was milking it from what I saw. He gets hit, it then looks like something registers as he is fine for a second, and then closes his eyes and drops to his side.
That's just from how the punch and the reaction looked. Not saying he did or didn't as I don't know, but that's how it looked from what I saw.

You're not allowed to measure...it's been a rule for a while. Wlad used to get called for it all the time. Could you imagine if it wasn't a rule? Guys with really long arms could just hold you away out of range like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

[JD]

At least the one constant in all the discussion is that Lawrence Cole sucks, and should not be allowed to ref a fight between two drunks over a bar stool, let alone a professional prize fight.

The dude is an absolute abomination.

[Snoop]

Fitz, That ref was terrible but lets not act like only Abe got the short end of the stick... Dirrell wasn't credit with a clear KD when he throw a counter left hook and sent Abe flying into the ropes. Also (I forgot the round), Dirrell landed a MASSIVE counter left (best punch of the fight) and the ref immediately stepped in to get Arthur's eye checked. I thought that was straight bullshit. The low blows that Dirrell was warned for were also questionable. The ref sucked but it went both ways.

Not to mention that the doctors fixed the cut when Abraham was getting checked, or at least they stopped the bleeding momentarily.

[D-MARV]

At least the one constant in all the discussion is that Lawrence Cole sucks, and should not be allowed to ref a fight between two drunks over a bar stool, let alone a professional prize fight.

The dude is an absolute abomination.

Yes Sir!!!

I heard stories about him but this was terrible. He should never ref a meaniful fight again.