[DubC]

Solid first post, especially if you considered it "beer rambling."

Thank you. I am a fan of the sweet science and I have been on numerous forums for the last 5-6 years...But I rarely post, because I don't want to deal with the bullshit "Pactards, Flomos" and all the other names for other fighters...I am a fan of the sweet science, and would love to see the fight we all crave for-but I'm not going to turn this post\thread into that...

I have been a member and watched the forums on other sights for 5-6 years...I find it pointless to post there because all of the nut huggers fail to face the facts...They would rather lick their hero's balls than post something intelligent and contribute to the discussion...

Ben brings it real, straight from the fighters and those who surround them...Its real talk, and since I have found FightHype I am addicted...Many great posters on here, and for the most part the thread are great...Have a few nut huggers for certain fighters, but it is nothing like the other forums...And when those guys post they are put in their place...

We all Clamor for that "MegaFight" but this thread isn't about that, so I won't got there...

I will be posting a bit more, after viewing these threads for the last few months-and nice to see someone reply without bashing on what I posted earlier...Would like to know your thoughts on my views in that previous post...But thats probably not appropriate for this thread about Pwill and the trainer that could help him...

And I want to thank Ben for responding to the Email I sent to him, it is much appreciated...This is the best site for REAL insight to boxing, and words from the fights themselves...Not just random journalists with a full BAIT article that only has one of two actual quotes from the fighters...Thanks Ben, keep up the good work!

[DubC]

Without a doubt, Emmanuel Steward. Steward works well with tall fighters like Williams, and instructs them to use the basics, the only thing Williams really needs. Look at what Steward done with Wlad, and even with Wlad, you see Steward get pissed off for not opening up, and not going for it.
He wouldn't have that problem with Williams, he could train him to fight tall like he is supposed to, but unlike Wlad, Williams wouldn't be afraid to open up and go for it when the time is right, and scared of getting hit, so it's perfect for Steward, and will have all the benefits he has got from guys like Wlad, except without the frustration.

You hit the nail on the head, great post!

[HazConvictedFelo...]

I think P-Dub should just retire. He's smart if he lived simple and saved his money like Bob Papa said he did. There's no way to break him out of his habits. He has advantages but they seem to work against him. Against Cintron, he was throwing a southpaw straight to the body that found his head at waist level. When he returned, Cintron was there to counter him with hard right hooks. If the fight hadn't ended the way it did, Cintron would've KO'd P-Dub.

[mrwigi]

Of course, the first trainer that comes to mind is Manny Steward because he has trained a lot of tall fighter. But i also think Floyd Sr. could help him improve his defense.

[alaganza]

yep. especially when he started talking about retiring after he got knocked out.

Exactly. I remember when Tarver touched Roy in the rematch. During the post fight interview Roy said he didn't know if he wanted to fight again.(or something to that effect) One of my friends said then that Roy was done. I told him he was wrong. Then Roy got touched in the next fight even worse. Now Roy travels the world getting beat up on a weekly basis.

I guess the point is Roy lost both confidence and desire with one shot. Then he went from being one of the most talented prize fighters of this generation to a resume stuffer.

[zucrates]

I agree with this. But Paul would have to spend some significant time with Steward to really change his style up.

Not trying to be mean, but watching that fight last night made me think that Williams must be one of the dumbest fighters ever. You would have thought after getting cracked repeatedly with that same straight left over and over again, PW would have at least brought his gloves up to block the damn punch.

With his reach and height, man I would have him killing people with a stiff hard jab.

What about Anne Wolfe because he needs some serious rebuilding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/friends.gif)

[Nay_Sayer]

DLH? lol. like that's anything more than DLH just choosing to work with him. you can't possibly try to tell me Dawson has only looked bad because of Mayweather not being in his corner either. i would have taken Eddie Mustafa Muhhamad over him any day.

he did a lot of good for Hatton though, right? he's producing a lot of champions too.

Well, Chad handed Adamek his last loss while under Floyd. Chad hasn't done shit of substance since. Adamek, OTOH, has gone from 175 all the way up to Heavyweight and made plenty of noise along the way.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that Chad is gonna look even worse under Steward...

[Nay_Sayer]

Because he is a shitty fighter. All his best wins were before Snr took over the training.

Fernando Vargas?

[caneman]

Well, Chad handed Adamek his last loss while under Floyd. Chad hasn't done shit of substance since. Adamek, OTOH, has gone from 175 all the way up to Heavyweight and made plenty of noise along the way.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that Chad is gonna look even worse under Steward...

Actually he was with McGirt then, no?

[Cshel86]

The only person that can help him at this point is Floyd Sr (in my opinion). I say that because Paul is stubborn as hell, and the most Floyd Sr can do is show that overgrown freak how to use his right shoulder to at least roll a left hand (which he is a sucker for). Almost every fighter that I saw him train, did decent with the shoulder roll (Oscar De La Hoya). As a matter of fact, whoever Paul spars and does padwork with, needs to wrap a brick around their left hand and see if he isn't lazy enough to avoid it

I was all for Paul and his trainer saying that they haven't changed anything since the Martinez fight. I only agreed because I thought it was a ploy to make Lara use that left hand wrecklessly and run into a bear trap while trying to land it on Williams. Sadly, Paul showed us that they really DIDN'T change anything, and he was a sitting duck all night, smh. There was no need to make a strong request for a 3rd Martinez fight because of his half-ass performance Saturday. We all know that he is going to have to fight somebody just a bit better than Lara in order to prove that he's ready for Martinez. I didn't even want to see him fight anybody else after Saturday, smh.