[mitukczuk]

Well I think the problem lies in his childhood. Growing up without a father (mostly) in a somewhat culturally biased mid-west while living in a bad neighbourhood (not as bad as he thinks mabybe) is bound to bring some controversy. He bailed out of school in 8th grade if I remember correctly (feel free to correct me I really am not sure).

He can't even speak without taking a break and repeating himself. He is not an educated person and he acts mainly upon emotion, he doesn't think critically because nobody has taught him how to. I am never surprised when he says something like that because without boxing, he would probably end up picking up trash. But boxing is where he's found himself and boxing is where he is Grand-Master with no-one getting even remotely close.

I'll use a quote from The Big Bang Theory "Come for the breasts, stay for the brains"...But in Floyds case it goes "Come for the brains, stay for boxing".
What I am trying to say is, if you want solid conversation or opinions...go to Klitschkos...

I tolerate Floyd's quotes because I don't care about his personality as long as he is so masterful in the ring because that's what matters. IMO

This post has been edited by mitukczuk: Feb 14 2012, 07:15 PM

[BoxingEinstein]

Well I think the problem lies in his childhood. Growing up without a father (mostly) in a somewhat culturally biased mid-west while living in a bad neighbourhood (not as bad as he thinks mabybe) is bound to bring some controversy. He bailed out of school in 8th grade if I remember correctly (feel free to correct me I really am not sure).

He can't even speak without taking a break and repeating himself. He is not an educated person and he acts mainly upon emotion, he doesn't think critically because nobody has taught him how to. I am never surprised when he says something like that because without boxing, he would probably end up picking up trash. But boxing is where he's found himself and boxing is where he is Grand-Master with no-one getting even remotely close.

I'll use a quote from The Big Bang Theory "Come for the breasts, stays for the brains"...But in Floyds case it goes "Come for the brains, stay for boxing".
What I am trying to say is, if you want solid conversation or opinions...go to Klitschkos...

I tolerate Floyd's quotes because I don't care about his personality as long as he is so masterful in the ring because that's what matters. IMO

+1 One of the best comments to date. Good stuff there.

[mgrover]

Terrible post topic and should be closed. This has nothing to do with boxing but only the opinion of a boxer. SMH!

its mainly to do with the front page article, if you dont like it why not move along?

as ben said maybe cause its mayweather hes getting this stick? but anybody stupid or smart, educated or uneducated would of learnt by now how people react.

[daprofessor]

I love FMJ's boxing and I have all his fights, but he is just a dumb, ignorant individual. That's a fact, you can't even dispute it. He's a walking contradiction. That's why I don't care to know about fighter's personality cause I don't want this to take away from me watching a great fighter fight, but at the same time a spade is a spade. FMJ is a bigot and racist. His latest tweet against J Lin is another racially motivated comment. They are not talking about Lin cause he is Asian. They are talking about him cause he was undrafted, went to Harvard, graduated with Economics and in his first 5 games in NBA nobody has put the numbers that he's put up. That's the main reason he's talked about, not because he is Asian. If all black players were as good as J Lin then Knicks would win with Melo and Amare one would think. If Lin was black, I mean he would get talked about just as much if not even more. Not even AI has put the numbers that Lin put, Lebron who was talked about a lot more way before he got in the NBA didn't put the numbers that Lin put in 5 games. That's why Lin gets talked about a lot. He also didn't come with any of the pom poms that other NBA players came to the leagues, his contract wasn't even guaranteed until last week and he was like the last player on Knicks' bench. That just goes to show you that he always had the skills but he was always overlooked. Like Kobe said, players don't come out of nowhere, meaning Lin didn't come out of nowhere he was just overlooked for one reason or another, his background might have smth to do with it.

so he was overlooked because he is asian....but he's not being talked about now because he's asian? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

u can't have it both ways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/closedeyes.gif)

[daprofessor]

Wow, this is good stuff! I cant lie, both of you (Grover and Professor have excellent points. We all know that when it comes to Mayweather, there aren't many out there who can deny his skills, training methods, and overall knowledge of the sport. No matter how many people speak bad about him, they cant deny his talent.

As far as what Professor brought up about Floyd trying to break through the business and get what he felt he deserved, that's absolutely correct. There were guys (DLH, Gatti, etc) who were getting all of the big breaks, paydays, whatever. Im sure we've ALL felt like this at one point in the job field...there's always those few people who do less than shit, aren't as dedicated, and/or may not be as good as you, but they ALWAYS seem to move up in the ranks.

With that said, Im sure that all of that old shit still bothers him to a degree, regardless of how much money he makes nowadays. When he speaks on race/ethnicity, that usually makes me cringe as well, being the fact that there's so much emotion behind that subject, and let's face it, no matter how good a person sounds when they discuss racial issues, there are just some people out there who already have their minds made up that they are going act out, regardless.

Mayweather has made his path in the sport, and has been the bad guy for the longest now, but what I tend to not understand is how he appears to want people to love him at the same time. You cant have both. As we all know, there are very wealthy and successful people in the world, and Im quite sure they're assholes, with good reason. What FMJ does wrong is, he puts his thoughts out there...knowing that people already hate him since the Pacquiao fight isn't happening, and he isn't as eloquent (if you would) of a speaker.

Does he say things on record that holds much truth? For the most part, and yes, it makes sense. Again, it's hard for people to side with him and his views, when most hate him at the same time. I mean the most recent comment he made was a risky one, and he may have said it without bad intentions...but again, most people dont know how to receive him because all they can think about is "Money Mayweather".

i love mayweather for his skills and ring intelligence. he's learned a lot from al haymon and it shows. he's not where he is at by accident. he does make very valid points. i don't necessarily agree with all he has to say...but he's entitled to his opinion like everyone else. i can't take anything he or anyone else says to heart though. i feel it's like tv. if u don't like what's on....change the channel. it's that simple.

[pesticid]

so he was overlooked because he is asian....but he's not being talked about now because he's asian? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

u can't have it both ways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/closedeyes.gif)

I said background which includes being undrafted, being a Harvard graduate, being cut by numerous teams, having graduated with Economics and being Asian.

[daprofessor]

good points daprofessor. I honestly don't find his comments racist. Controversial yes but he is correct in a way but he needs to see the whole picture. Since its so rare to see an Asian american performing so well in the NBA it becomes sort of a "wow" factor even though there are guys (black white whatever) that perform on an even higher level for years who don't get the recognition that this guy Lin has got cause its more expected of them. Just like in the movie great white hype. Like with Tiger and golf. I never watched golf but since Tiger was playing i was watching. I love the sport but honestly i was watching cause he is black. Nothing wrong with that. And if someone said "you only watch cause he's black" they would have been absolutely correct cause i wouldn't know who the hell else was playing lol. same with hockey or tennis, if a black or latino is playing i am watch cause of them. this is normal.

someone pointed out that he has scored more in his first five games in the nba than a lot of huge nba stars(past and present) as one of the reasons they're making a big deal about him....but let's be honest. it was a big deal when he had his first break out game. i happen to know very many asians here in socal and it came as no surprise that they were all celebrating him the same way they celebrate pacquiao. it's part of what ppl do. puerto ricans love trinidad. europeans love the klitschkos...african americans aka "the coloreds" love roy jones/floyd mayweather/ali...and asians love them some pac and lin. there's nothing wrong with admitting that.

[daprofessor]

Well I think the problem lies in his childhood. Growing up without a father (mostly) in a somewhat culturally biased mid-west while living in a bad neighbourhood (not as bad as he thinks mabybe) is bound to bring some controversy. He bailed out of school in 8th grade if I remember correctly (feel free to correct me I really am not sure).

He can't even speak without taking a break and repeating himself. He is not an educated person and he acts mainly upon emotion, he doesn't think critically because nobody has taught him how to. I am never surprised when he says something like that because without boxing, he would probably end up picking up trash. But boxing is where he's found himself and boxing is where he is Grand-Master with no-one getting even remotely close.

I'll use a quote from The Big Bang Theory "Come for the breasts, stay for the brains"...But in Floyds case it goes "Come for the brains, stay for boxing".
What I am trying to say is, if you want solid conversation or opinions...go to Klitschkos...
I tolerate Floyd's quotes because I don't care about his personality as long as he is so masterful in the ring because that's what matters. IMO

i disagree with these statements.

This post has been edited by daprofessor: Feb 14 2012, 08:27 PM

[daprofessor]

I said background which includes being undrafted, being a Harvard graduate, being cut by numerous teams, having graduated with Economics and being Asian.

being asian has everything to do with his background and him being overlooked, initially. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Cshel86]

i love mayweather for his skills and ring intelligence. he's learned a lot from al haymon and it shows. he's not where he is at by accident. he does make very valid points. i don't necessarily agree with all he has to say...but he's entitled to his opinion like everyone else. i can't take anything he or anyone else says to heart though. i feel it's like tv. if u don't like what's on....change the channel. it's that simple.

I totally agree. He isn't where at this stage of his career, by accident...and let's not even talk about how much money this guy racks up. He is entitled to his opinion, but it sucks that he's in the position he's in (as far as how the masses view his antics in the megafight).

Im not saying that some of the ridicule he endures is not totally his fault, but its further amplified because he's constantly being placed next to and compared to a guy named Pacquiao...someone that the world feels can do no wrong.

So with that said, he does need to careful of what he says, or at least be prepared for endless ridicule. As you said, you dont agree with everything he says, and I concur.

One of the MAIN reasons I concur, is because he went on that racist rant about Pacquiao a while back, and now he has the nerve to share his opinion about another newly crowned Asian athlete. Like you said (and I also believe), he has the right to his opinion, but he should truly refrain from anything that deals with Asian culture, etc., and he should know that people aren't going to accept his opinion as an "honest and harmless" one.

Truthfully, its hard to come back from that racist rant that he went on, so Im hard pressed to see why he even thought people would give him a chance when he mentioned another Asian athlete. Hell, maybe he doesn't care.