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> Boxing expert speak on the Pac/Bradley fight
mgrover
post Jun 20 2012, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Jun 20 2012, 10:15 PM) *
lol at this. I don't score for the aggressor if they're not effective. Did you even watch the video? The point is most of Pacquiao's shit wasn't landing, and commentators and compubox were counting them, while ignoring most of the shit Bradley landed. The judges saw it better than what most people were foolish to believe. Thinking Pacquiao destroyed the kid, no such thing happened.

Also, you're supposed to score defense, or did you forget? Clean punching, ring generalship, effective aggressiveness, and defense. People act like aggression is the only thing that matters.


while the video pretty much one sided and biased showed when Manny missed, any idiot with a computer can make that. The entire fight should be slowed down in such a fashion and then people can gauge what really happened.
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post Jun 20 2012, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 20 2012, 07:41 PM) *
while the video pretty much one sided and biased showed when Manny missed, any idiot with a computer can make that. The entire fight should be slowed down in such a fashion and then people can gauge what really happened.


there's a video out there already. i hope u have the 8 hours to spare to get through it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i think the whole point of that video was to illustrate how biased jim lampley and the hbo spin doctors really are. mission accomplished.
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post Jun 20 2012, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 21 2012, 02:01 AM) *
there's a video out there already. i hope u have the 8 hours to spare to get through it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i think the whole point of that video was to illustrate how biased jim lampley and the hbo spin doctors really are. mission accomplished.


tbf i watched it, was on youtube, at best i could give it 7-5 for pac, but i could still see an 8-4. while a lot of that left hands did miss, so did a lot of bradleys punches.

also anytime his head went below pacs belt line i didnt see that as defense.

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post Jun 21 2012, 04:24 AM
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whatever. They released the PPV numbers yet? Or does Bob always want to keep it a secret?
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Jun 21 2012, 05:24 AM) *
whatever. They released the PPV numbers yet? Or does Bob always want to keep it a secret?

I have to look for the article again, but I already read that Arum is pulling 900k out of his ass. Let me find it...

Sigh...here we go...

http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx...ubcategoryid=69

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MANILA, Philippines - Manny Pacquiao should be happy if he breaks the one million mark in pay-per-view sales for this June 9 showdown with Timothy Bradley in Las Vegas.

Bob Arum, the chief promoter, yesterday told www.boxingscene.com they’re tracking between 900,000 to 1 million PPV hits for the very controversial bout.
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Jun 20 2012, 05:15 PM) *
lol at this. I don't score for the aggressor if they're not effective. Did you even watch the video? The point is most of Pacquiao's shit wasn't landing, and commentators and compubox were counting them, while ignoring most of the shit Bradley landed. The judges saw it better than what most people were foolish to believe. Thinking Pacquiao destroyed the kid, no such thing happened.

Also, you're supposed to score defense, or did you forget? Clean punching, ring generalship, effective aggressiveness, and defense. People act like aggression is the only thing that matters.


I doubt that many people see aggression as the only thing that matters. Most people here are die hard fans of the sport and understand how fights are scored. Though some categories are weighted different depending on the judge, we all pretty much know what the categories are. My point is that Manny simply landed more shots despite what compubox or the commentators said. He also landed the more clean and effective punches. Bradley was rocked solid a few times. He also constantly brought the fight to Bradley, which I initially thought bradley did until I watched the fight a second time. No matter what defense Bradley had in regard to ducking and dodging, I don't see how this could win him rounds, especially when his counter shots were not effective after Manny missed. In fact, most of that video shows Bradley NOT even throwing counter shots.

I had the luxury of watching the fight in a bar with very low to no sound, yet the whole bar was still like WTF after the decision. That rings of "booo" and "bullshit" filled the bar.

Was the fight a blow out? No. Was the a clear victor, yes, and it wasnt Bradley. That of course in my opinion.



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