[leonthegee]

suck it up Floyd, suck it up..

So you think 23 hr lock down is fair? My cousin shot a 12 yr old in the back and he's not even on 23hr lock down. He also got 88 yrs but thats beside the pont. He gets more privilages than Floyd. 2 months ago the muthafucka added me as a friend on facebook. And he's serving a triple life + 13.

[bnoles4life]

So you think 23 hr lock down is fair? My cousin shot a 12 yr old in the back and he's not even on 23hr lock down. He also got 88 yrs but thats beside the pont. He gets more privilages than Floyd. 2 months ago the muthafucka added me as a friend on facebook. And he's serving a triple life + 13.

88 YEARS????? **hyperventilating**

[Cshel86]

Anytime the judge gives you "Life + (insert number)"...that's usually translation for a courtesy "Fuck You".

[MaxPayne]

Now that you guys have had a chance to go back and forth on this, allow me to present you with a professional opinion.

A layman’s view of a plea bargain is basically an automatic conviction: the defendant knew there was no way of getting convicted, ergo, they admitted to their crimes and hoped for a more lenient sentence from the judge.

In reality, it’s far more complicated.

First of all, a plea bargain is a deal between the Defense and the Prosecution. If the Prosecution feels as though their case is strong, they flat out won’t accept the bargain. Legal teams also have a vested interest here, as prolonged proceedings mean greater fees for them.
Now, let’s look at this from both perspectives:

For the Defense, there are certain items that cannot be contested. Floyd Mayweather committed Grand Larceny by forcibly taking Harris’ cellular phone. There is also clear evidence from the text messages that there were violent, possibly murderous threats made to both Josie Harris and her lover at the time, C.J. Watson.

For the Prosecution, it’s the inverse of the situation. The Grand Larceny and threats are the easiest pieces to prove and hammer the Defense on. They would feel very good about their chances of earning a felony conviction if the case went to proceedings.

Which now begs the question…where could the Prosecution’s case possibly be weak enough for them to even consider taking a Plea Bargain from the Defense? The only road left is behind Door Number 3, which brings us to…

The reported assault and battery.

To this day, the true events of that evening remain a mystery. We have seen no Doctor’s reports and certainly no photographs of Harris after the alleged event. We have footage of her being taken in a stretcher to the hospital, although that is standard procedure for any type of 911 call.

You may also note that one of the children escaped from the house to get help. Once again, that is not conclusive evidence of battery. Children are often most frightened when the arguments tend to escalate and even at that point, there is no telling whether or not things would get to the point of physical abuse.

If the Prosecution, after consulting with Harris, felt as though it would be impossible to conclusively prove that Floyd attacked her and beat her as described, then that would make them amenable to at least hearing discussions on a Plea Bargain.

Now let’s switch to the Defense. You might be saying, “Well, if the Defense knows the other side can’t prove beyond a measure of a doubt that Harris was attacked by Mayweather, then why not fight the case?”

Let’s start with some of the obvious reasons:

Money: A long, drawn-out court case, with expensive legal counsel is a major cash drain.

Time and Distractions: Simply put, the time required to sit through long days in the courthouse would have been a major distraction from Floyd’s training.

Child Testimonies: Floyd was adamant from Day 1 that he didn’t want his children to go through the potentially traumatic experience of having to testify on behalf of one parent against another while being pounded with difficult questions from unknown individuals.

Lastly, let’s not forget another critical item: in these types of cases, the system is basically set up for the court to err on the side of being lenient to the female side of the dispute. This is just reality that the legal teams have to take account of and in this case, it would add another layer of difficulty in mounting a successful defense, even if Mayweather was truly innocent of assault and battery.

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that a Plea Bargain is a mutual agreement between a Prosecution and a Defense and that’s a key point people seem to be missing.

Now, if you want my personal opinion, I don’t believe Floyd hit her. I believe he roughed her up by possibly pushing her and grabbing her hair, but I find it difficult to believe that he punched and kicked her. The injuries would have been obvious and her stay at the hospital would likely have been longer.

I don’t believe Harris is mentally balanced, nor a person capable of making rational life decisions. She still claims she would fuck Floyd if they were both drunk, has admitted to pulling guns on him and trying to run him over. The clincher is that she’s writing a “tell-all” book about her life with Floyd, following the Superhead route (we all know how well that train-wreck continues to end up). She has accused Floyd of hitting her before and has recanted her testimony.

The surprising factor here was that the Defense expected Saragosa to give Floyd in the region of 30 days in jail at worst. Her sentencing of 90 days was the equivalent of hitting a Grand Slam while being down 3 runs at the bottom of the 9th inning, with a journeyman at the plate. Yes, it was that surprising.

Then again, he’s a black man in a white man’s legal system, and as is the case with Barry Bonds and Michael Vick, the system will always want to make an example of black men because that’s just the reality we live in. Successful minorities, especially the darker skinned ones, have to walk on eggshells and be humiliated in this country, no matter what they tell you. Barack getting into office actually made things worse, but that’s a topic for another day.

In any event, the Defense’s latest request is really just posturing. The best case scenario for Floyd is that he’s let out in about 2 months for good behavior.

You’re very welcome for the free lesson on American Law.

Also, it’s all bullshit. The entire fucking legal system is a joke.

[mgrover]

Also if he's judged by his peers, they'll see nothing but his money persona, and will most likely side with a woman crying on the stand, yet the defence could of so easily torn her apart on the stand from the things she has been saying I don't understand why they didn't go to court, it was a very winnable case. But to a jury I think Mayweather would be see as "Money", plus this case generally represents the stereotypical man beats woman.

[leonthegee]

88 YEARS????? **hyperventilating**

In Jr High School he was voted most likely to get the electric chair. LMAO. He was just one of those kids that you knew growing up that this nigga was either gonna end up dead or in jail. And hes getting more privileges than Floyd. He also did 23 hr lock down too. He was in Pelican Bay for about 5 yrs.

[Hotsauce]

So you think 23 hr lock down is fair? My cousin shot a 12 yr old in the back and he's not even on 23hr lock down. He also got 88 yrs but thats beside the pont. He gets more privilages than Floyd. 2 months ago the muthafucka added me as a friend on facebook. And he's serving a triple life + 13.

dude got a laptop?

[Cshel86]

I don’t believe Harris is mentally balanced, nor a person capable of making rational life decisions.

What woman is? Ever heard of emotions? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Then again, he’s a black man in a white man’s legal system, and as is the case with Barry Bonds and Michael Vick, the system will always want to make an example of black men because that’s just the reality we live in.

I'm glad you brought this up. Seems like we're able to handle racial issues (so to speak) around here, so I'll proceed. As you mentioned, the system will always want to make an example of black men. In a way, I see why, because the majority of "black men" shown on television (which is deemed "entertaining"), are loudmouths, exhibit verbal, financial, and physical "invincibility".

With that said, ANYTIME a black man is confronted with the justice system, that very image is used when a court decision is made, whether you live that lifestyle or not. In Floyd's case, he is fucked either way....he's a rich black man that is viewed as "invincible" in the ring, he's rich as fuck, and on television...his persona projects invincibility.

As you mentioned Josie Harris scoring a "slam dunk" with Floyd going to jail, the justice system did the same. Being an example lasts forever in Floyd's book, because his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will see him as whatever's been projected. All of the initial charges, negative television publicity, the stupid fuckin' comments posted about him and family on these articles/videos, and so forth.

So either way, they "got him" (so to speak). I believe in people receiving punishment for the crimes that they commit, but the fuckin' freedom of press (these idiots posting dumb shit on the internet, biased writers, etc) makes things worse than what they really are, and it tends to sway the readers/viewers.

[Franchize]

So you think 23 hr lock down is fair? My cousin shot a 12 yr old in the back and he's not even on 23hr lock down. He also got 88 yrs but thats beside the pont. He gets more privilages than Floyd. 2 months ago the muthafucka added me as a friend on facebook. And he's serving a triple life + 13.

Damn...thats cold. But yea, my cousin friended me on facebook from jail n he robbed four banks.

[phontain]

What woman is? Ever heard of emotions? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



I'm glad you brought this up. Seems like we're able to handle racial issues (so to speak) around here, so I'll proceed. As you mentioned, the system will always want to make an example of black men. In a way, I see why, because the majority of "black men" shown on television (which is deemed "entertaining"), are loudmouths, exhibit verbal, financial, and physical "invincibility".

With that said, ANYTIME a black man is confronted with the justice system, that very image is used when a court decision is made, whether you live that lifestyle or not. In Floyd's case, he is fucked either way....he's a rich black man that is viewed as "invincible" in the ring, he's rich as fuck, and on television...his persona projects invincibility.

As you mentioned Josie Harris scoring a "slam dunk" with Floyd going to jail, the justice system did the same. Being an example lasts forever in Floyd's book, because his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will see him as whatever's been projected. All of the initial charges, negative television publicity, the stupid fuckin' comments posted about him and family on these articles/videos, and so forth.

So either way, they "got him" (so to speak). I believe in people receiving punishment for the crimes that they commit, but the fuckin' freedom of press (these idiots posting dumb shit on the internet, biased writers, etc) makes things worse than what they really are, and it tends to sway the readers/viewers.

PREACH!!!