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post Oct 28 2009, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 28 2009, 05:06 PM) *
Shane hasn't been the same at 147 since Forrest...

Collazo was in with a shell of Mosley moving back to 147 after years at 154.


Except Shane dominated Collazo and looked good doing so. The fight was not competitive, and no one has ever said that Mosley did not look good in that fight.

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Looking like the old Sugar Shane Mosley, the Pomona speedster zipped through the talented Luis Collazo on Saturday and was awarded the WBC interim welterweight title after 12 rounds.

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post Oct 28 2009, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 05:57 PM) *
Except Shane dominated Collazo and looked good doing so. The fight was not competitive, and no one has ever said that Mosley did not look good in that fight.

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Looking like the old Sugar Shane Mosley, the Pomona speedster zipped through the talented Luis Collazo on Saturday and was awarded the WBC interim welterweight title after 12 rounds.

Pre-Forrest Shane would have sent Collazo away on a stretcher.
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post Oct 28 2009, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 28 2009, 07:17 PM) *
Pre-Forrest Shane would have sent Collazo away on a stretcher.


Maybe...maybe not. He didn't send Wilfredo Rivera away on a stretcher.

Point being, contrary to what you asserted, Shane looked good against Collazo...no one would say he did not look good. He dominated him, and Collazo is a good, solid fighter.
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Another one thinking Shane looked good against Collazo. It was a solid performance, not his best, but he looked pretty good to me. He dominated Collazo most of the fight.
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post Oct 29 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Oct 28 2009, 06:36 PM) *
Maybe...maybe not. He didn't send Wilfredo Rivera away on a stretcher.

Point being, contrary to what you asserted, Shane looked good against Collazo...no one would say he did not look good. He dominated him, and Collazo is a good, solid fighter.
He knocked wilfredo rivera the fuck out..lol

Cotto didn't want to rematch Mosley..that's for damn sure.
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post Oct 29 2009, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 29 2009, 06:46 PM) *
He knocked wilfredo rivera the fuck out..lol

Cotto didn't want to rematch Mosley..that's for damn sure.


He stopped him late in the 10th (of 10)...in a close, hard fought battle; he did not dominate or "send him away in a stretcher"...and Rivera had no better of a chin and was fairly equivalent to Collazo - THAT was the point. Maybe a younger Mosley stops Collazo, maybe he doesn't as I already said...but Mosley dominated Collazo, not the case with Rivera.

Back to the original point, NO ONE would say Mosley did not look good against Collazo as you initially asserted and no one has agreed with. Collazo is a good, solid fighter who Mosley dominated.

Cotto fought Mosley to a draw in my book and ended up winning a close decision...at the end of the day, he fought him.
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post Oct 29 2009, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (JD @ Oct 29 2009, 07:14 PM) *
He stopped him late in the 10th (of 10)...in a close, hard fought battle; he did not dominate or "send him away in a stretcher"...and Rivera had no better of a chin and was fairly equivalent to Collazo - THAT was the point. Maybe a younger Mosley stops Collazo, maybe he doesn't as I already said...but Mosley dominated Collazo, not the case with Rivera.

Back to the original point, NO ONE would say Mosley did not look good against Collazo as you initially asserted and no one has agreed with. Collazo is a good, solid fighter who Mosley dominated.

Cotto fought Mosley to a draw in my book and ended up winning a close decision...at the end of the day, he fought him.
Shane knocked his ass the fuck out.

Cotto wanted no parts of a rematch with Shane..especially with Richardson in his corner.
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post Oct 29 2009, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (maelstrom @ Oct 29 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Shane knocked his ass the fuck out.

Cotto wanted no parts of a rematch with Shane..especially with Richardson in his corner.


Mosley beat Collazo MUCH easier than Rivera, in fact, going into the 10th and final round of the Rivera fight the cards were split, hardly a white-washing (the fight ended with less than 30 seconds left), while Collazo was thoroughly dominated. Mosley beat Collazo MUCH more easily than he beat Rivera, and moreover he looked far better doing so. You obviously did not see either fight.

But back to the original statement that Mosley did not look good against Collazo...show me ONE reputable source that agrees with that. One...that's all. Just one. 1.

Cotto fought Mosley...whether you feel he won, lost, wanted a rematch or didn't...he fought him. Cotto - Mosley occurred, Cotto needed to share a ring with him in order to get credit for fighting him...his fans didn't just grant him a win because they are sycophants.
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post Oct 30 2009, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (JD @ Oct 29 2009, 09:14 PM) *
Mosley beat Collazo MUCH easier than Rivera, in fact, going into the 10th and final round of the Rivera fight the cards were split, hardly a white-washing (the fight ended with less than 30 seconds left), while Collazo was thoroughly dominated. Mosley beat Collazo MUCH more easily than he beat Rivera, and moreover he looked far better doing so. You obviously did not see either fight.

But back to the original statement that Mosley did not look good against Collazo...show me ONE reputable source that agrees with that. One...that's all. Just one. 1.

Cotto fought Mosley...whether you feel he won, lost, wanted a rematch or didn't...he fought him. Cotto - Mosley occurred, Cotto needed to share a ring with him in order to get credit for fighting him...his fans didn't just grant him a win because they are sycophants.

IIRC, Rivera was Shane's first fight @ 147.

And Cotto wasn't much interested in engaging with Shane in the last 2-3 rounds...
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post Oct 30 2009, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Oct 30 2009, 01:29 AM) *
IIRC, Rivera was Shane's first fight @ 147.

And Cotto wasn't much interested in engaging with Shane in the last 2-3 rounds...


It was. But perhaps you did not catch the whole thread...that was a tangent to a comment that Mosley "did not look good" against Collazo, which in fact is a total fallacy.

As for the Cotto fight...Mosley was definitely the guy with more in the tank late...as I said, I had it a draw. Point being, Cotto shared a ring with him and was not given credit for beating him without ever fighting him.
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