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I think real pac fans see were hes gone wrong while the actual pactards, glory supporters etc etc i bet its the same with floyd fans and those that jumped on the band wagon. I think the day arum dies is the day i do the naked mile through my town centre

I'm pretty sure the "pactards" are the ones this thread was intended for. The skip bayless type of boxing fans

[Cheesey1]

They moved on to tim tebow or Jeremy Lin.

Poor Tebow and Lin. They have no idea what's in store. Pacquaio was the master at making sure that they never turned on him. Not sure if Tebow and Lin are that savvy.

This post has been edited by Cheesey1: Jul 21 2012, 09:52 AM

[mgrover]

Poor Tebow and Lin. They have no idea what's in store. Pacquaio was the master at making sure that they never turned on him. Not sure if Tebow and Lin are that savvy.

really? all they have to do is act like they dont know whats going on whenever there in a tough position. they obviously cant use the fact they dont know english but they could always pretend to forget

[Cheesey1]

really? all they have to do is act like they dont know whats going on whenever there in a tough position. they obviously cant use the fact they dont know english but they could always pretend to forget

Ha!! True, it's basic stuff, but he gives it 100%. The not knowing English is big though. Tebow can also play the religion card, but the Saint still trumps him on that one...

[BoxingFan86]

I'm a Pacquiao fan, but I'm a boxin' fan 1st.

[duwdu]

I used to be a big fan of his. I think once he lost the fire No Fear trunks, he lost me lol J/K. But in all seriousness, I don't hate him. I just don't like how he handles business...or the lack there of. He isn't the first fighter to get fucked ove by a promoter and won't be the last. And I'm not saying he should stand in Bob Arum's face like some tythe fact that pe of martyr and activist. Its easier said than done. But I have a problem with he knows he's been a puppet but he's allowed Arum to tarnish the career and legacy of Mayweather even though he knows good and damn well Arum is the reason they aren't fighting. I know you're thinking, "why should he care about Mayweather?". He shouldn't. But allow me to explain. If I have beef with you, and we wanna fight you but we haven't. Say we're at a club or something, and we're about to throw down, and my friend pulls a bitch move like sucker punches you, or pulls out a weapon or runs, I'm not going to then allow him to say you were scared to throw down and allow him to actlike he was all big and bad. That's a bitch move where I'm from...whether it's your boy or not.

I also have a big problem with a grown ass man and a boxer filing a defamation of character against another boxer. Boxing is one of the few sports where if you don't like a guy, you literally get paid to let your anger out on him. You want Mayweather to negotiate with you but your going to file defamation against him? If you're so mad...just beat him up! Ya whole camp said the Mayweather fight would be easy and boring anyway. Shut him up!

I also did a lot of digging underneath the surface, long before I joined this site, about the PED thing surrounding him and his camp AND the negotiations. Some of the things I found are pretty well known at this point but some are still pretty eye opening and upsetting. Two things I always preach that I hate in sports are cheaters and quitters.

End of the day, I don't not like Manny. I don't like his team. I despise Arum. I respect Freddy for his stature in the boxing world, but he's a cheater also so he loses points with me. I don't like that prick Konz. One minute Arum is trying to fire you. The next minute, you're conspiring with him. Also, as I've told many of you before, I have a friend who's cool with Manny. He chilled with him before almost every fight except the Bradley one. He told me some thing about how those guys treat Manny, especially because he's a foreigner. It's VERY disturbing and disgusting...especially since theres plenty of money to be made for everyone. Arum not only wants to make money, he wants to freeze the opposition from making any simultaneously.

I'm in total agreement with Franchize. Plus, Manny attempts to, or simply plays dumb (like Cshel also pointed out,) a lot of times. That, indeed, ain't cool.

P34c3

[duwdu]

Hi BoxingFan86... no offense or disrespect intended, but, seeing as you're a fan of Pac, did you lose a bet such that you're having to wear your current avatar? Or you're simply pro-OSDT?

P34c3