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flazi
post Sep 14 2010, 05:14 PM
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I was thinking about this saturday night as Rios beat the crap out of peterson. When the fight started i noticed how much bigger and fuller Rios was than Peterson. Then their fight night weight was announced. Rios blew up to 151 while Peterson wen to 139. Peterson really had no shot. He couldn't hurt the bigger man. I see this a lot in my sport. I am a power lifter. I weigh around 215 and compete in the 220 class. there are guys that weigh in 220 but the next day when we compete i can tell they are way bigger than me. some come in around 235 but since they weighed in under the limit then can compete and they blow me out of the water. For years i have just dealt with it but now i am thinking if this is fair or should i do the same as they do, get some water pills and go down to 198 then rehydrate back up to my normal weight of 215 and blow the competition at 198 out of the water. I honestly haven't done that because i feel its cheating. what do you guys think?
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post Sep 14 2010, 05:24 PM
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I think there should be a limit or same day weigh-ins. But you can argue the fact that a fighter can hurt himself, by draining his body to make weight, and not have an advantage at all.
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post Sep 14 2010, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (flazi @ Sep 14 2010, 05:14 PM) *
I was thinking about this saturday night as Rios beat the crap out of peterson. When the fight started i noticed how much bigger and fuller Rios was than Peterson. Then their fight night weight was announced. Rios blew up to 151 while Peterson wen to 139. Peterson really had no shot. He couldn't hurt the bigger man. I see this a lot in my sport. I am a power lifter. I weigh around 215 and compete in the 220 class. there are guys that weigh in 220 but the next day when we compete i can tell they are way bigger than me. some come in around 235 but since they weighed in under the limit then can compete and they blow me out of the water. For years i have just dealt with it but now i am thinking if this is fair or should i do the same as they do, get some water pills and go down to 198 then rehydrate back up to my normal weight of 215 and blow the competition at 198 out of the water. I honestly haven't done that because i feel its cheating. what do you guys think?

Evander Holyfield,Joe Louis,Tyson,Dempsey,Jean Marc Mormeck are guys who don't have problem with bigger guys..I don't have problems with bigger guys..If you don't have a chin or the greatest defense,I can see how it'd be unfair and it is when you're trying to fight guys at certain weight classes in my opinion..Also,what do you mean by getting blown out the water??KO'd or just beaten bad??What do you compete in that there is a 220 lb. weight class??Speed is the advantage ya gotta use..

In my opinion fighters should have to weigh in the day of the fight..Try drinking 3 liters of water a day..Water is not something you should ever cut out since if you don't drink enough,your body will hold weight and cause you to have more water weight..I weigh around 200 lbs and for our size,3 liters is good..See where you're at after trying that..Also,if you can't win in a certain weight class,try another one lower if the guys are too big for ya..Size isn't much of an issue to me though..Weight lifters in boxing tend to look bigger but that doesn't mean anything..It's skill that matters..

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post Sep 14 2010, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (flazi @ Sep 14 2010, 06:14 PM) *
I was thinking about this saturday night as Rios beat the crap out of peterson. When the fight started i noticed how much bigger and fuller Rios was than Peterson. Then their fight night weight was announced. Rios blew up to 151 while Peterson wen to 139. Peterson really had no shot. He couldn't hurt the bigger man. I see this a lot in my sport. I am a power lifter. I weigh around 215 and compete in the 220 class. there are guys that weigh in 220 but the next day when we compete i can tell they are way bigger than me. some come in around 235 but since they weighed in under the limit then can compete and they blow me out of the water. For years i have just dealt with it but now i am thinking if this is fair or should i do the same as they do, get some water pills and go down to 198 then rehydrate back up to my normal weight of 215 and blow the competition at 198 out of the water. I honestly haven't done that because i feel its cheating. what do you guys think?


There is absolutely no reason they should have day before weigh ins. It is totally unfair, like last saturday's fight. It gives the guy who sucked so much weight too much time to rehydrate. Remember what happened to Joey Gamache? This sport is already unsafe, giving a guy that type of advantage makes it that much worse.

I think all weigh ins should be same day as fight for obvious reasons.
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post Sep 14 2010, 06:19 PM
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If the fight is at 140 come in the ring no more than 140. If you have to drain to make weight then stop sandbagging and fight guys your own size at your natural weight. JMO
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post Sep 14 2010, 07:01 PM
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Same day weigh in and stop with the bullshit.

How in the hell is it a lightweight fight when one guy walks into the ring as a jr middle?
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post Sep 14 2010, 07:21 PM
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Personally I like day of the fight weigh INS. Or what USA boxing does for amateur no more than an 8 pound difference. Or modify it for pros and say day after the weigh in there can't be more than an 8 lb difference think you'll see less careers ruined and cowards like clottey will have to start fighting guys there size.
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post Sep 14 2010, 07:30 PM
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The biggest problem is from area to area everyone has their own rules and regulations, and there is no consistency. So some times things can be pretty fair, and other times some straight up BS goes down in all aspects of this sport. And unfortunately nothing is going to change anytime soon..
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post Sep 14 2010, 08:07 PM
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my sport is powerlifting. I can total 1500+ pounds on the three lifts, 600 deadlift, 410 bench, 450+ squat (weak i know) but the guys who are heavier are in the 700's deadlifting and 600's squating. there is nothing more debilitating than watching someone warm up with the weight you max at. Same day weigh ins sounds great. I know in my sport it would be great cause the way it is now i can weigh in at 9 am friday and not compete until saturday or sunday evening.
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post Sep 14 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Sep 14 2010, 08:30 PM) *
The biggest problem is from area to area everyone has their own rules and regulations, and there is no consistency. So some times things can be pretty fair, and other times some straight up BS goes down in all aspects of this sport. And unfortunately nothing is going to change anytime soon..


This is true.
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