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Dolimite
post Dec 24 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 24 2012, 12:34 PM) *
Floyd didn't set shit did he now, he was so afraid of losing his 0 he made it so for his fights, maybe even his cards so he doesn't look like a bitch there had to be ODST. He didn't do it for a clean sport he did it to protect that 0


Who was Mayweather going to lose his 0 to? Mr. Nyquil? Guess again, he knew there was a strong possibility that Sleepyhead was on something and since those allegations Mr. Slumber hasn't looked so spectacular. What he did was show Manny's bluff and Marquez showed Manny what happens when the playing field is even. You can not believe that Manny had a snow ball chance in hell that he had a shot against Mayweather or do you? What skill set does Sleepy have or has that can really challenge Mayweather? if you say his punching power I would again point to Marquez if you say speed I would again point to Marquez, if you say anything I am pointing to Marquez. What Marquez does guess who does it 100000000000000000000% better. The only person I honestly think that can take Mayweather's 0 is Mayweather himself. he does not go in a fight with 100% then he is done for. Between 147-154 I have Mayweather 85% of 100% winning, I like those odds.
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post Dec 24 2012, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 24 2012, 09:25 PM) *
What he did was show Manny's bluff and Marquez showed Manny what happens when the playing field is even. You can not believe that Manny had a snow ball chance in hell that he had a shot against Mayweather or do you? What skill set does Sleepy have or has that can really challenge Mayweather? if you say his punching power I would again point to Marquez if you say speed I would again point to Marquez, if you say anything I am pointing to Marquez. What Marquez does guess who does it 100000000000000000000% better. The only person I honestly think that can take Mayweather's 0 is Mayweather himself. he does not go in a fight with 100% then he is done for. Between 147-154 I have Mayweather 85% of 100% winning, I like those odds.


anybody he fought. why did all of a sudden want ODST. I never mention Pac in my post, I think you should yano, address my points rather than bring up a debate we all hoped had died when Pac was KO...

I get it, you want to ride Mayweathers dick, and thats no problem you've proven another one of my points when someone said we'd finally get rid of all the Pactards, I just said but watch all the Flomos get worse...
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 24 2012, 02:32 PM) *
anybody he fought. why did all of a sudden want ODST. I never mention Pac in my post, I think you should yano, address my points rather than bring up a debate we all hoped had died when Pac was KO...

I get it, you want to ride Mayweathers dick, and thats no problem you've proven another one of my points when someone said we'd finally get rid of all the Pactards, I just said but watch all the Flomos get worse...


I am not a Flomo but you can't make an argument without the main premise of the argument. You are saying Floyd was afraid to lose his 0 right? But the only person he requested for OSDT was Pacquiao and then he decided OSDT was to be for all his fights. Now if he was afraid to lose his 0 who would it be against? Obviously if his first introduction to OSDT was apart of the negotiations for the Pac fight and you say he afraid to lose his 0 then who else would you be talking about? Just because I defend someone doesn't make me a Flomo, Floyd is one of my favorite boxers he is a lot of people's favorite boxers and why is that a bad thing? But I will list my favorite boxers currently: 1. Mayweather 2. Peter Quillin 3. Mikey Garcia 3. Sergio Martinez 4. Miguel Cotto 5. Austin Trout 6. Zab Judah 7. Andre Ward 8. Danny Garcia 9. Abner Mares 10. Andre Dirrell/ Dontey Wilder (Bama boy!)

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post Dec 24 2012, 08:24 PM
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what am saying is he would of asked for it either way, not for the good of boxing, but the good of his 0, whether it be Pac or any other dude.
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post Dec 24 2012, 10:16 PM
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anyone who knows boxing knows that floyd 'money' mayweather deserves all the credit in the world for pioneering testing in boxing. the only one's in denial are haters. it's that simple. pac didn't want testing. freddie didn't want testing. arum didn't want testing. hbo could have carried the torch for floyd and championed his cause...but they didn't. lampley and merchant are both ass clowns. what they also failed to mention is that jmm and his trainer offered to test. they had no problem with it.

there is a connection with nonito, conte, vada and the shills who are promoting this as nonito doing something special. everyone fails to mention or see the connection between conte and berto who tested positive. let's not forget...berto is the one who insisted on testing to begin with. i suggest the ppl who are watching this thing unfold casually to read between the lines and connect the dots. follow the money trail. usada costs 100k to use....vada costs 10k a pop. conte is involved with vada. he stands to make money off of them.

hbo helped to build manny into the "star" he was. u don't think they know about the contractual stipulations? the weight drain game? the bullshit that they ran the whole way? letting them watch tape of opponents strategy and training..etc..etc. hbo is/was in the manny pacquiao business and the bigger he became...the happier they were. it's the reason they sold us the bullshit for years. not everyone bought it. it's why i love this site. most here know better. so i say fuck jim lampley and his bullshit!!! fuck larry merchant and his bullshit as well!!! they all owe juan manuel marquez a huge apology. they need to get on their hands and knees and kiss his fucking ass!!! if i'm marquez, i pursue legal action for their bullshit!!!
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post Dec 24 2012, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 24 2012, 07:16 PM) *
anyone who knows boxing knows that floyd 'money' mayweather deserves all the credit in the world for pioneering testing in boxing. the only one's in denial are haters. it's that simple. pac didn't want testing. freddie didn't want testing. arum didn't want testing. hbo could have carried the torch for floyd and championed his cause...but they didn't. lampley and merchant are both ass clowns. what they also failed to mention is that jmm and his trainer offered to test. they had no problem with it.

there is a connection with nonito, conte, vada and the shills who are promoting this as nonito doing something special. everyone fails to mention or see the connection between conte and berto who tested positive. let's not forget...berto is the one who insisted on testing to begin with. i suggest the ppl who are watching this thing unfold casually to read between the lines and connect the dots. follow the money trail. usada costs 100k to use....vada costs 10k a pop. conte is involved with vada. he stands to make money off of them.

hbo helped to build manny into the "star" he was. u don't think they know about the contractual stipulations? the weight drain game? the bullshit that they ran the whole way? letting them watch tape of opponents strategy and training..etc..etc. hbo is/was in the manny pacquiao business and the bigger he became...the happier they were. it's the reason they sold us the bullshit for years. not everyone bought it. it's why i love this site. most here know better. so i say fuck jim lampley and his bullshit!!! fuck larry merchant and his bullshit as well!!! they all owe juan manuel marquez a huge apology. they need to get on their hands and knees and kiss his fucking ass!!! if i'm marquez, i pursue legal action for their bullshit!!!


Game. Set. Match! Speak the truth cousin! That entire HBO crew was so far up Manny's scrotum they literally fell to pieces when Juan turned the lights off of Pac. Mayweather gets all the credit for his stance in OSDT. He was the FIRST to implement them in all is fight. If you want to face Mayweather you have to take the test. ESPN and HBO and other blow hards actually called May a coward for asking for strict testing. I don't get it. If that came from any other boxer than they would be heroes of the sport. Again the media picks their heroes. I agree Daprofessor, its all BS. I am glad Juan put an end to the hype machine that is Manny.

and again who has threaten to take away Mayweather's O? What boxer?

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post Dec 25 2012, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 24 2012, 03:34 PM) *
Floyd didn't set shit did he now, he was so afraid of losing his 0 he made it so for his fights, maybe even his cards so he doesn't look like a bitch there had to be ODST. He didn't do it for a clean sport he did it to protect that 0


Does FMJ's "alleged" motive make his request any less positive for boxing? This testing "could" help save lives. Is it possible he might not only be protecting his 0? Doesn't matter how great he is considered if he can't enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Most heartbreaking moment I ever watched in all of sports was My dads hero Muhammed Ali lighting the Olympic torch in 1996. I didn't know whether to applaud or run for cover. If this testing can even potentially reduce the risk of any professional boxer being in that state it is well worth it.

P.S. Word on the streets says Abe Lincoln abolished slavery........ Read a little deeper you find out many historians say he damn sure didn't want to. But that doesn't change the fact he was a major factor.
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post Dec 25 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Dec 25 2012, 01:16 PM) *
Does FMJ's "alleged" motive make his request any less positive for boxing? This testing "could" help save lives. Is it possible he might not only be protecting his 0? Doesn't matter how great he is considered if he can't enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Most heartbreaking moment I ever watched in all of sports was My dads hero Muhammed Ali lighting the Olympic torch in 1996. I didn't know whether to applaud or run for cover. If this testing can even potentially reduce the risk of any professional boxer being in that state it is well worth it.

P.S. Word on the streets says Abe Lincoln abolished slavery........ Read a little deeper you find out many historians say he damn sure didn't want to. But that doesn't change the fact he was a major factor.


See if he wanted this for boxing on a larger scale he would of campaigned for that, that's why am so cynical about it. Instead he reserved it for his fights, sure it costs money but still, don't you give back to the sport that made you what you are as he likes to constantly state?

I wonder because when Berto was caught, and Lamont was caught, wasn't there piss dirty too?

and daprofessor I don't hate the guy, maybe I don't agree with some things he's done, but I've never met him to have that amount of dislike for him, I just see a different point of view.
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post Dec 25 2012, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Dec 25 2012, 05:16 AM) *
Does FMJ's "alleged" motive make his request any less positive for boxing? This testing "could" help save lives. Is it possible he might not only be protecting his 0? Doesn't matter how great he is considered if he can't enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Most heartbreaking moment I ever watched in all of sports was My dads hero Muhammed Ali lighting the Olympic torch in 1996. I didn't know whether to applaud or run for cover. If this testing can even potentially reduce the risk of any professional boxer being in that state it is well worth it.

P.S. Word on the streets says Abe Lincoln abolished slavery........ Read a little deeper you find out many historians say he damn sure didn't want to. But that doesn't change the fact he was a major factor.


Abe didn't want slavery to extend to the Northern states, he told the Confederate states that they could keep slavery but they could not extend in the Northern or free states. The only reason why there was a civil war is because the southern states attacked the northern states first. Read Forced into Glory it explains the thinking behind the "abolition" of slavery. But I catch your drift.

Ali is a sad story I fear Roy Jones is headed in that direction.
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post Dec 25 2012, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Dec 25 2012, 11:15 AM) *
Abe didn't want slavery to extend to the Northern states, he told the Confederate states that they could keep slavery but they could not extend in the Northern or free states. The only reason why there was a civil war is because the southern states attacked the northern states first. Read Forced into Glory it explains the thinking behind the "abolition" of slavery. But I catch your drift.

Ali is a sad story I fear Roy Jones is headed in that direction.


Will peep that book 4 sure. You n I share the same sentiments in reference to Roy.....
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