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SmartyBeardo
post Aug 24 2011, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 24 2011, 08:43 AM) *
Correction I don't give a fuck when someone like you points out am wrong and then talk shit about it and then won't even give a counter argument. I've got enough pride in my arguments. in all the shit you've spewed you've yet anything to say that's boxing worthy. All you've done is attack a randomer on the net with simple shit like, you love Floyd. Haven't seen anything to do with boxing at all. Am not in doubt either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If you won't engaged in an argument why are you still replying? I mean really.


I misread your Eminem reference, I take back accusing you of being racist.

I may as well say your post is utter trash that comes out of me when I have milk (lactose intolerable) and not bother giving an explanation or any other reasons why. Am not saying your post is, just an example, don't get all pissed off over a few words (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually, I did engage, but your ability to discern an argument is on the level of your ability to discern racism.

I have stated repeatedly that your claim that if Ortiz defeats FMJ it will be a tainted victory is nonsense. Translation for the grovers of the world = If Ortiz defeats FMJ on September 17 it will not be tainted.

Pretty simple but obviously not simple enough for those who are ignorant enough to deduct that if Ortiz defeats FMJ it will be a tainted victory.

BTW, others have attempted to camouflage their Floydiotry by claiming they believe FMJ lost to Castillo. It didn't work for them either.
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:22 PM
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Aug 24 2011, 07:03 PM) *
Actually, I did engage, but your ability to discern an argument is on the level of your ability to discern racism.

I have stated repeatedly that your claim that if Ortiz defeats FMJ it will be a tainted victory is nonsense. Translation for the grovers of the world = If Ortiz defeats FMJ on September 17 it will not be tainted.

Pretty simple but obviously not simple enough for those who are ignorant enough to deduct that if Ortiz defeats FMJ it will be a tainted victory.

BTW, others have attempted to camouflage their Floydiotry by claiming they believe FMJ lost to Castillo. It didn't work for them either.


fair enough. you have your opinion and I have mine. but am not joking about the Floydiotry. You can call me an idiot, but an insult would be calling me a floyd fan
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:48 PM
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I figured this would help some of y'all! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/8/24/23819...esnt-want-fight
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 24 2011, 11:54 AM) *
I agree, I think it'll be Mayweather's best win at welterweight. Berto has tangibles that don't require much prior experience to quantify. He's fast. He's explosive. He's strong. He can't really fight much, and Ortiz did what a top level fighter should do to a Berto: He beat him by a hard-fought unanimous decision.


Berto has looked fast, explosive and strong against C fighters. his best fight at 147 was with Collazo and that fight deserved a rematch but Berto had no interest in one. not to mention he's been fighting guys like Freddy Hernandez and Quintana, both of those fights were terrible mismatches and shouldn't have even been on HBO. Ortiz didn't knock off the dominant WW champion, that's Pac. he beat an overhyped and overpaid Berto. for Ortiz to be half the fighter people are making him out to be he needs more fights at welterweight and they've to be against the best opposition available. a top level fighter should have shut out Berto or knocked him out.

i expect a lot of people to see the difference between fighting a protected B fighter and a fighter that earned one of the top spots in boxing. Ortiz is going to be completely out of his element in this one and the only exciting thing about this fight is the possibility Mayweather might have got old and it'll be 7-5 or 8-4 win for him instead of 12-0 or 11-1.
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 24 2011, 02:49 PM) *
Berto has looked fast, explosive and strong against C fighters. his best fight at 147 was with Collazo and that fight deserved a rematch but Berto had no interest in one. not to mention he's been fighting guys like Freddy Hernandez and Quintana, both of those fights were terrible mismatches and shouldn't have even been on HBO. Ortiz didn't knock off the dominant WW champion, that's Pac. he beat an overhyped and overpaid Berto. for Ortiz to be half the fighter people are making him out to be he needs more fights at welterweight and they've to be against the best opposition available. a top level fighter should have shut out Berto or knocked him out.

i expect a lot of people to see the difference between fighting a protected B fighter and a fighter that earned one of the top spots in boxing. Ortiz is going to be completely out of his element in this one and the only exciting thing about this fight is the possibility Mayweather might have got old and it'll be 7-5 or 8-4 win for him instead of 12-0 or 11-1.


Exactly
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 24 2011, 02:45 PM) *
fair enough. you have your opinion and I have mine. but am not joking about the Floydiotry. You can call me an idiot, but an insult would be calling me a floyd fan


Why is it an insult to be called a Floyd fan? I'm a fan of Floyd Mayweather, I think he's a very talented fighter. I try and use logic and reasoning in discussing him and call a spade a spade when it comes to his short comings. What you spewed was Floydiotry, it was baseless and illogical. The slight against you has merit, you should have listened to Beardo and just STFU because you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. Accept what you said and come back with something better next time
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 24 2011, 08:21 PM) *
Why is it an insult to be called a Floyd fan? I'm a fan of Floyd Mayweather, I think he's a very talented fighter. I try and use logic and reasoning in discussing him and call a spade a spade when it comes to his short comings. What you spewed was Floydiotry, it was baseless and illogical. The slight against you has merit, you should have listened to Beardo and just STFU because you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. Accept what you said and come back with something better next time


it seems on this forum being a floyd fan is the highest level of nut hugging you can achieve. I can respect your a fan of the guy. I think your just pissed off that if anybody is a floyd fan there instantly a nut hugger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 24 2011, 03:44 PM) *
it seems on this forum being a floyd fan is the highest level of nut hugging you can achieve. I can respect your a fan of the guy. I think your just pissed off that if anybody is a floyd fan there instantly a nut hugger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


no, there are plenty of Floyd fans that aren't nut huggers. I'm not mad, if you're a Floyd fan just don't spew baseless garbage. This is a nice site, I don't want to see garbage all over it
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 24 2011, 08:52 PM) *
no, there are plenty of Floyd fans that aren't nut huggers. I'm not mad, if you're a Floyd fan just don't spew baseless garbage. This is a nice site, I don't want to see garbage all over it


am not saying you are a nut huger. am saying your labelled one. look how fast I was labelled one. sure those exact words weren't said, but it was obviously implied.
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