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> Showtime@9PM(ET),8pm(CT),6PM (PT) Lopez vs. Concepcion, SPOILERS: 15-Minutes Later (No Duplicate Threads Or Public Streams)
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post Jul 11 2010, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Jul 11 2010, 10:28 AM) *
The thing that was impressive about those first few rounds was that he stuck to his southpaw style even though it wasn't working. He was obviously in with a b-level guy and he wanted to work on his weaknesses. Once he went orthodox, he looked as good as I've ever seen him - sharp, quick, and heavy handed.

The best I ever seen him was the Vic fight. Donaire took some leather last night and it showed in his post fight interview. This guy is suppose to be a P4P fighter and you are not suppose to look like that after you fight a C level fighter.
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post Jul 11 2010, 10:57 AM
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First off, what the FUCK was that ref doin' in the Main Event??...he was all up in the action, right next to the fighters darting in and out, especially towards Concepcion...

That's VERY distracting...incompetent...and quite possibly corrupt.

I understand a ref gettin' close as to get ready to stop the fight...but this motherfucker was way too close, stepping back and forth, and looked to have an early Lopez stoppage set in his mind from the opening bell...

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Anyway...Lopez got the job done...he obviously has dynamite in his hands and a lacking defense...still a bit green if you ask me...

Matter of fact, I'mma go ahead and pick Marquez over him right now.....Lopez only got 2 rounds in, and Marquez' experience/IQ could be the difference maker...
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post Jul 11 2010, 11:25 AM
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You know, we have two potential barnbarners here for as long (or short as they last)

Lopez-Marquez and Lopez-Gamboa.

In each case, it could come down to not only who hits whom first, but the recovery rate of each fighter. Or even have the winner of each fight against each other!

Could either of these fights have the potential to be Hagler-Hearns, WITH knocksowns? I was gonna say Correlas-Castillo I, but I don't think either of these matches goes past 5 rounds. Somebody's going down after taking a some good shots themselves in these fights!!!!

I give Lopez a better shot against Marquez than Gamboa. BUT if Concepcion could drop him, either of these guys could really drop him bad and hurt him. Don't forget that Lopez could do the same to the other opponents too!!!

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post Jul 11 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 11 2010, 11:13 AM) *
The best I ever seen him was the Vic fight. Donaire took some leather last night and it showed in his post fight interview. This guy is suppose to be a P4P fighter and you are not suppose to look like that after you fight a C level fighter.


Ever see Mayweather-Burton? I know you did, explain that then?
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post Jul 11 2010, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (The CEO @ Jul 11 2010, 11:57 AM) *
First off, what the FUCK was that ref doin' in the Main Event??...he was all up in the action, right next to the fighters darting in and out, especially towards Concepcion...

That's VERY distracting...incompetent...and quite possibly corrupt.

I understand a ref gettin' close as to get ready to stop the fight...but this motherfucker was way too close, stepping back and forth, and looked to have an early Lopez stoppage set in his mind from the opening bell...

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Hahahaha!!! I was thinking the exact same thing. I was just waiting for that early stoppage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 11 2010, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 11 2010, 10:13 AM) *
The best I ever seen him was the Vic fight. Donaire took some leather last night and it showed in his post fight interview. This guy is suppose to be a P4P fighter and you are not suppose to look like that after you fight a C level fighter.


The whole reason he took leather was because he obviously considered it a sparring session where he could work on his weaknesses without worrying about losing. Once he went orthodox it wasn't even slightly competitive.

I don't think he should ever be fighting southpaw because it's too late to add it to his game, but the fact that he was willing to stick to it when he obviously wasn't comfortable for him is commendable. It's kind of like a form of bravado, like fighting with one hand behind his back.
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post Jul 11 2010, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:25 AM) *
You know, we have two potential barnbarners here for as long (or short as they last)

Lopez-Marquez and Lopez-Gamboa.

I give Lopez a better shot against Marquez than Gamboa. BUT if Concepcion could drop him, either of these guys could really drop him bad and hurt him. Don't forget that Lopez could do the same to the other opponents too!!!

Jack


Caballero would be an excellent match for both Gamboa and Lopez. And because Caballero has a solid chin he has a really good chance against both guys.

Unfortunately, Marquez isn't the same fighter he was pre-Vasquez or that could be interesting as well.
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post Jul 11 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 11 2010, 01:41 PM) *
Ever see Mayweather-Burton? I know you did, explain that then?

I don't ever think I said Mayweather was impressive in that fight... Did I?


You obviously missed my point. My point is that Donaire was not all that impressive last night. He did well in the last couple of rounds but considering his opponent, he should have been. I hold Donaire to high standards because he is considered one of the best right now and he was touched up last night by a fighter that had no business going 4 rounds with him. If he used the fight as a sparring session then so be it But let's not say he was "Impressive" last night.
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post Jul 11 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jul 11 2010, 03:17 PM) *
I don't ever think I said Mayweather was impressive in that fight... Did I?


You obviously missed my point. My point is that Donaire was not all that impressive last night. He did well in the last couple of rounds but considering his opponent, he should have been. I hold Donaire to high standards because he is considered one of the best right now and he was touched up last night by a fighter that had no business going 4 rounds with him. If he used the fight as a sparring session then so be it But let's not say he was "Impressive" last night.


You missed my point completely also.

My only point was basically P4P fighters do have off nights and sometimes fight to the level of there opposition. You wrote "P4P fighters are not supposed to look like that after fighting a C-Level fighter". That is why I brought up the Mayweather-Burton fight, Floyd got hit a lot and looked far from spectacular that night, and he fought a C-Level fighter that night also . Does not mean he is not a P4P'er, like you were implying about Donaire, just means maybe he was not at his best that night?

No doubt Donaire took his opponent lightly and was not at his best last night. So many top fighters need big fights or tough opponents to "get up" and so we see them at their best. I could name you many of fights and fighters who fought below there own level and lost or squeaked by fights to lesser fighters only because there lack of preparation.
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post Jul 11 2010, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (salvador @ Jul 11 2010, 12:54 PM) *
Caballero would be an excellent match for both Gamboa and Lopez. And because Caballero has a solid chin he has a really good chance against both guys.

Unfortunately, Marquez isn't the same fighter he was pre-Vasquez or that could be interesting as well.


Caballero isn't the faster nor the hardest puncher his chin might hold up but he will end up takeing a beating at the hands of Lopez who i believe is overall the more skilled and talented fighter.
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