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Aug 26 2009, 04:14 PM
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Welterweight Group: Team BU Posts: 1,948 Joined: 2-November 07 Member No.: 6,422 |
These are the weights of Byrd and his opponents in his Heavyweight losses (and the Vitali one in which he was losing before Vitali had to stop due to his shoulder being fucked up).
Byrd vs. Povetkin Byrd weighed in @ 211 3/4 lbs. Povetkin weighed in @ 226 3/4 lbs Povetkin outweighed Byrd by 15 lbs. Byrd vs. Wladimir Klitschko (2 fights) Fight 1: Byrd @ 213.5 & Wlad @ 241 Wlad outweighed Byrd by 27.5 lbs. Fight 2: Byrd @ 213.5 & Wlad @ 238 Wlad outweighed Byrd by 24.5 lbs Byrd vs. Vitali: Byrd @ 210 3/4 & Vitali @ 244 1/4 Vitali outweighed Byrd by about 34 lbs. (give or take) Byrd vs. Ike: Byrd @ 208 3/4 & Ike @ 244 3/4 Ike outweighed Byrd by 36 lbs. Now at the end of the day, Byrd made the conscious decision to fight at that weight, KNOWING he was giving up a lot of size, but counting on his speed and elusiveness to get him through. And for the most part it worked. He's a two time champion, and many fighters just flat out refused to fight him because of his ability to make people miss and look stupid. Many people believe that's why Lennox Lewis gave up his title rather than fight Byrd. Whether Byrd would have won, I don't know and neither does anyone else, but it would have been a good fight I think. But I think it SHOULD be considered that aside from when he dropped down to an unhealthy weight and was sapped of all his energy, it usually took someone with a huge size advantage to defeat him. |
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Aug 26 2009, 04:26 PM
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CAESAR, H.M.I.C. Group: Root Admin Posts: 21,447 Joined: 20-October 00 Member No.: 2 |
True enough, but don't you think that most people would realize that the reason he got fucked up by George in the last fight was due to his dropping so much weight so quick? I mean I realize the weight differential, but without him dropping like that, does anyone REALLY think that he'd get handled like that by George if he wasn't weakened beyond belief? Before that the only people who had beaten him were massively bigger (aside from Povetkin who was still bigger). I mean 20+ and in the case of Ike 40+ pounds bigger. Boxing's full of people who got smashed and then kept fighting and doing alright. I wish he'd retire though. Damn. I don't think the weight loss helped, but Byrd has shown a rapid decline in abilities over his last several fights. His speed and elusiveness has been long gone and he's been getting hit way more than he's ever gotten hit in the past. In my opinion, not only can he not dodge a bullet anymore, but he also can't pull the trigger anymore either. When those two things are gone, it's DEFINITELY time to hang them up before a fighter with FAR greater skills than Shaun George does even more damage. When it's gone, it's gone and in my opinion, as far as Byrd is concerned, it's gone and the next time you see him fighting a legitimate opponent, you might see him going out like Ali did against Trevor Berbick...that would be a very, very sad sight to see for any diehard Chris Byrd fan. |
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Aug 26 2009, 04:42 PM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Banned Posts: 1,368 Joined: 8-January 05 Member No.: 1,494 |
I love it for the irony. "Byrdman's" two most absolute FAVORITE people in the world are bonded,lol..
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Aug 26 2009, 05:11 PM
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Welterweight Group: Team BU Posts: 1,948 Joined: 2-November 07 Member No.: 6,422 |
ah screw you! lol
I don't like Leon, I think he's an interesting person just in a "what the fuck?" type of way. Plus he's always good for a laugh, even if it IS at his expense. Chris Byrd on other hand! lol And Hype I agree that he should retire. He won his last fight via 4th round TKO.... he doesn't have anything to prove, and I really REALLY don't want him to end up getting hurt badly the way we've seen some fighters who stuck around get hurt. |
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Aug 26 2009, 05:38 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
These are the weights of Byrd and his opponents in his Heavyweight losses (and the Vitali one in which he was losing before Vitali had to stop due to his shoulder being fucked up). Byrd vs. Povetkin Byrd weighed in @ 211 3/4 lbs. Povetkin weighed in @ 226 3/4 lbs Povetkin outweighed Byrd by 15 lbs. Byrd vs. Wladimir Klitschko (2 fights) Fight 1: Byrd @ 213.5 & Wlad @ 241 Wlad outweighed Byrd by 27.5 lbs. Fight 2: Byrd @ 213.5 & Wlad @ 238 Wlad outweighed Byrd by 24.5 lbs Byrd vs. Vitali: Byrd @ 210 3/4 & Vitali @ 244 1/4 Vitali outweighed Byrd by about 34 lbs. (give or take) Byrd vs. Ike: Byrd @ 208 3/4 & Ike @ 244 3/4 Ike outweighed Byrd by 36 lbs. Now at the end of the day, Byrd made the conscious decision to fight at that weight, KNOWING he was giving up a lot of size, but counting on his speed and elusiveness to get him through. And for the most part it worked. He's a two time champion, and many fighters just flat out refused to fight him because of his ability to make people miss and look stupid. Many people believe that's why Lennox Lewis gave up his title rather than fight Byrd. Whether Byrd would have won, I don't know and neither does anyone else, but it would have been a good fight I think. But I think it SHOULD be considered that aside from when he dropped down to an unhealthy weight and was sapped of all his energy, it usually took someone with a huge size advantage to defeat him. i will give byrd this much... ike aside no one wanted to fight him till he showed signs that he wasnt the same fighter anymore.. till he became more flat footed.. the byrd that came up as a heavy on usa network cuzz he couldnt get fights was a very dangerous very elusive fighter... by time he got his real shot (again not counting the ike fight cuzz i believe ike was in another class at that time) he had already started his decline... |
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Aug 27 2009, 08:02 PM
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Super Flyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 296 Joined: 23-July 08 From: Sacramento, Ca Member No.: 7,813 |
Apparantly Chris Byrd just hired on a certain someone as his adviser. *sigh* What the fuck, man? Dont worry homie, at least Chris Byrd has already had his successes. His chances of making good money are over, and his chump of an advisor wont get nothing off him. He was a very good fighter when he was capable, but those days are WAY over. This does suck that Chris Bryd has to turn to this idiot, but what does that say about his career and where it's at. My advise to everyone is to just consider Byrd retired, he aint going anywhere. |
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Aug 27 2009, 09:30 PM
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Welterweight Group: Team BU Posts: 1,948 Joined: 2-November 07 Member No.: 6,422 |
yeah that's pretty much how I look at it. Considering him retired, I mean.
I'm gonna pick up his career set at a site someone recommended and it's like 35 bucks or so. Not bad. |
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