[checkleft]

I don't even look at the Williams fight as his breakout. I thought he took the first Williams fight when I really became a fan was the Pavlic fight. The second Williams fight I thought he would win not comfortably anyway.

Idk how much more you guys want Martinez to "blow them out of the water" his been knocking everyone out.
Chavez would not be an easy fight, he has a weight advantage height and can take a punch, I still don't think he can beat Martinez right now though.
He should definitely look for a fight with the winners of those European bouts getting signed

It would be hella funny though if they shut him put and he ends up like pirog looking for a fight with him

[Franchize]

Regardless of whether anyone think Sergio is legit, he undoubtedly has cemented himself as the best middleweight out there resume wise. For that reason alone, he deserves more marquee fights. My only problem with Sergio is that he should be embarassing guys while he waits for his shot. The more he steamrolls opponents, the more the public becomes outraged. Nobody started saying Floyd was ducking Manny until Manny started annihilating guys. But when he had that close fight with Marquez, the outrage died down. Sergio should be fighting big names who are easy to hit. Easy tol ook good against like Kelly Pavlik (who ppl forget Merchant said would end up one of the greatest middlweights of all time lol) Go out there and beat up on guys like Kirkland and K9. If he keeps fighting these guys who are quality boxers, the casual fan doesnt see a guy who beat a quality opponent. They see Sergio in a close fight against guys they dont even know.

[sduck]

Sergio is a good fighter and the top middleweight. I just don't think he's as good as people make him out to be.

[Cshel86]

He should definitely look for a fight with the winners of those European bouts getting signed

If you're referring to Sergio doing this, then that's his problem now. His management/promoter has done him no favors by putting him in there against these relatively unknown foreign fighters.

They should be putting Sergio in there with guys like Mayorga (dig 'em up), try to get a Margarito fight (if possible), Felix Sturm, or Jermain Taylor. These "fantasy fights" that guys are coming up with, will only make the hardcore fan happy, and not help Sergio's pockets.

He's too busy chasing Julio for a belt that was taken from him, while Julio keeps stealing all of the remaining fights in the division. All Julio will do is vacate that title, so Sergio can have it back, and then what?

[daprofessor]

+5...

And side note, the type of knockout that happen to Williams can happen to ANY fighter... Im not taking anything away from Martinez, it was well earned.. but it wasnt a brutal beatdown and the fight was fairly even to that point IMO

i think ur minimizing what sergio did to williams. he didn't close his eyes and just throw a shot....he set that up perfectly. and to do so under the fire williams was putting on him was very impressive. williams was avoided for good reason. no one was calling out williams prior to that or even after...and now...no one is calling out sergio. i think pirog and quillen are the only two guys that have mentioned his name. i'd love to see the pirog fight to unify. quillen ain't ready for sergio.

also...let's not act like sergio ain't doing what he's supposed to with his opposition. he's stopped his last 4 opponents who had a combined record of 127-4. that is pretty damn impressive when u consider all of those guys were young up and coming fighters not retreads. his loss to williams was a respectable one. his win over pavlik was an upset win....and he should have been given a stoppage win against cintron. there's no need to rematch margarito at this point. he'd murder margarito.

This post has been edited by daprofessor: Jun 4 2012, 01:28 PM

[checkleft]

i think ur minimizing what sergio did to williams. he didn't close his eyes and just throw a shot....he set that up perfectly. and to do so under the fire williams was putting on him was very impressive. williams was avoided for good reason. no one was calling out williams prior to that or even after...and now...no one is calling out sergio. i think pirog and quillen are the only two guys that have mentioned his name. i'd love to see the pirog fight to unify. quillen ain't ready for sergio.

also...let's not act like sergio ain't doing what he's supposted to with his opposition. he's stopped his last 4 opponents who had a combined record of 127-4. that is pretty damn impressive when u consider all of those guys were young up and coming fighters not retreads. his loss to williams was a respectable one. his win over pavlik was an upset win....and he should have been given a stoppage win against cintron. there's no need to rematch margarito at this point. he'd murder margarito.

Plus a thousand.

I hear people say he shouldnt be struggling with the guys he fights, idk what fights they are watching he's knocking everyone out lol

[Cshel86]

Let's face it, Sergio has been fighting sub par competition, whose new on U.S. soil, and had padded records. What's worse about it is, he's fighting the WRONG guys! People can try their hardest to give him the utmost respect for those wins, but he knows as well as us, that those wins have done little to get him where he REALLY wants to be.

A fight with Mayorga or Sturm would've done him some justice. He was able to take Paul's punches because Paul was fighting at 160 lbs...I dont remember him hurting or knocking anybody down at that weight. Williams went from 147, to 154, then he fought Sergio at 160 both times, so he obviously lost something while jumping weight classes.

[daprofessor]

Let's face it, Sergio has been fighting sub par competition, whose new on U.S. soil, and had padded records. What's worse about it is, he's fighting the WRONG guys! People can try their hardest to give him the utmost respect for those wins, but he knows as well as us, that those wins have done little to get him where he REALLY wants to be.

A fight with Mayorga or Sturm would've done him some justice. He was able to take Paul's punches because Paul was fighting at 160 lbs...I dont remember him hurting or knocking anybody down at that weight. Williams went from 147, to 154, then he fought Sergio at 160 both times, so he obviously lost something while jumping weight classes.

mayorga, no....sturm, yes.

he stopped guys that had never been stopped before. dzinziruk was undefeated. sergio just recently moved up himself.

[Cshel86]

mayorga, no....sturm, yes.

he stopped guys that had never been stopped before. dzinziruk was undefeated. sergio just recently moved up himself.

At this point, names like Sturm, and even Mayorga would tremendously help Sergio. Mayorga could be a "stay busy" fight, but he seems content with waiting for Chavez, while Chavez fights everybody at MW. Instead of eliminating potential opponents for Chavez to fight, he sits on the sidelines looking crazy. Now, if he wanted to, Chavez can fight two more MW fights and move up...leaving Sergio stuck.

What was Dzinziruk's record like before he fought Sergio? Okay he stopped Williams, but anybody can get hit with a punch that they don't see coming, isn't that how knockouts happen for the most part? We all knew from the first Quitana fight, that Paul was quite hittable, which ultimately leaves you open for being KO'd.

Sergio moved up to MW in Dec. '09, so it's safe to say that he's a full blown MW. Im not sure he's able to go up and down in weight like he says he can, but hey, we all know that he's willing to do that for a Floyd and/or Manny fight.

[mgrover]

What was Dzinziruk's record like before he fought Sergio? Okay he stopped Williams, but anybody can get hit with a punch that they don't see coming, isn't that how knockouts happen for the most part? We all knew from the first Quitana fight, that Paul was quite hittable, which ultimately leaves you open for being KO'd.

Sergio moved up to MW in Dec. '09, so it's safe to say that he's a full blown MW. Im not sure he's able to go up and down in weight like he says he can, but hey, we all know that he's willing to do that for a Floyd and/or Manny fight.

well i guess that makes any knock that happens when the other person doesnt see the punch pointless, you hear that everybody KOing people is pointless nowadays

you can say what you like about him, but Sturm isnt going to fight Martinez, I doubt any of the idiots with straps will. Maybe him looking weaker will work in his favor as he might be able to get a fight.