 Pavlik turns down 50/ 50 for Williams, Again |
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 Jul 19 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE A few weeks back, promoters Dan Goossen and Bob Arum of Top Rank held discussions on a possible middleweight bout between WBO/WBC champion Kelly Pavlik and multi-division contender Paul Williams. "About three weeks ago, two weeks ago, I had discussions with Bob Arum regarding a possible Pavlik-Paul Williams fight. Now as we know, Paul Williams has fought at 160-pounds but he's actually a 147-pounder," Goossen said to BoxingScene.com's Thomas Schlabe. Goossen tells BoxingScene that he pitched an even 50-50 deal and Arum wanted no part of the deal. Based on their recent runs in the ring, Goossen believes that both sides are entitled to an even split. "Coming off that great win over Winky Wright, obviously Kelly is still reeling somewhat from the loss to Bernard Hopkins. Regardless of that, we feel that Paul is at the top of the divisions whether it's 147, 154, 160 or 168," Goossen said. "I told Bob that I wasn't going to get into a situation where I thought, that based on Paul's recent win over Wright and Pavlik's recent loss to Hopkins - I wasn't going to sit there and put Pavlik at a smaller percentage. I told him that we would be willing to do the fight at 50-50, co-promotion and each side split it down the middle and Bob didn't want any part of it." Top Rank recently spoke with HBO and three middleweight opponents are being looked at for Pavlik's return on October 3 at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City - Winky Wright, Sergio Martinez and Felix Sturm. |
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Jul 19 2009, 10:39 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
Talk about mangling a promising career.
From taking the Hopkins fight until now, they are doing their best to make Pavlik irrelevant. Stupid. |
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Jul 19 2009, 10:52 AM
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Amateur Group: Team BU Posts: 0 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Atlanta,GA Member No.: 1,310 |
QUOTE (JD @ Jul 19 2009, 11:39 AM)  Talk about mangling a promising career. From taking the Hopkins fight until now, they are doing their best to make Pavlik irrelevant. Stupid. totally agreed |
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Jul 19 2009, 11:00 AM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
It's really a shame. I used to like Kelly Pavlik but Bob Arum is destroying this kid.
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Jul 19 2009, 11:01 AM
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Choppin Headz Boi! Group: Team BU Posts: 22,696 Joined: 16-October 02 Member No.: 19 |
I wouldnt have a problem with Pavlik taking on Sturm in a unification fight.
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Jul 19 2009, 12:20 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,762 Joined: 14-May 09 From: Tampa Bay Area Member No.: 10,273 |
Arum's a dick, and I would love to see Pavlik/Williams but I think 50/50 is unfair to Pavlik. He is the champion and undefeated at 160. Why should he 50/50 spilt with a guy who has 1 fight at 160? I dont think its a 60/40 situation but the 55/45 area is a bit more in the range that the champion should get.
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Jul 19 2009, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (keith @ Jul 19 2009, 01:20 PM) Arum's a dick, and I would love to see Pavlik/Williams but I think 50/50 is unfair to Pavlik. He is the champion and undefeated at 160. Why should he 50/50 spilt with a guy who has 1 fight at 160? I dont think its a 60/40 situation but the 55/45 area is a bit more in the range that the champion should get. i agree. and tho i don't really think 50-50 is unfair, i do think it's kind of dickish for them to act like they're doing pavlik a favor by offering him that. there's definitely no reason pavlik should take a smaller cut than anyone at 160. |
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Jul 19 2009, 12:56 PM
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Formerly wvu8893 Group: Banned Posts: 1,232 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Beckley, West Virginia Member No.: 2,334 |
QUOTE (BigG @ Jul 19 2009, 12:01 PM) I wouldnt have a problem with Pavlik taking on Sturm in a unification fight. My thoughts exactly. Right now, I'd rather see Pavlik fight Sturm, let Williams really do something worthwhile at 160, and earn a shot at a unified champion. It'd make for a much bigger fight for everyone involved. |
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Jul 19 2009, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 19 2009, 01:56 PM) My thoughts exactly. Right now, I'd rather see Pavlik fight Sturm, let Williams really do something worthwhile at 160, and earn a shot at a unified champion. It'd make for a much bigger fight for everyone involved. How much more worthwhile can you get after dominating Winky? Williams has every right to call out Pavlik. Hopefully Williams will go after Abraham's vacant title and force Pavlik and Sturm to fight him. Gotta give it up Williams just dominated a man nobody wants to fight. 50/50 is fair but 55/45 Pavlik wouldn't be bad either. Mad props to Williams for the gusto. |
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Jul 19 2009, 01:55 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
Williams deserves a fight with Pavlik. At least just as much as anyone else in the division. But I'm sure people would rather Pavlik fight Mora, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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