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kidbazooka1
post May 8 2009, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (3King3 @ May 8 2009, 12:58 AM) *
Please explain how he is going to shock the world? Can I get a break down of how this is going to happen?


Sure No problem.

Marquez unlike most of Gayweathers past opponents will not just stalk him he is i believe just as smart as Floyd. True he may be a bit smaller and slower but his ring generalship, being able to adapt and bigger heart will be enough to take a close but well deserved decision. And as for Marquez perfromance against Norwood that means sh*t that fight was 10 f*cking years ago when Manny was still getting KO'ed by bums.

And if he doesn't get the win he's still a muthaf*cking badass for fighting the undefeated bigger retired #1 p4p fighter in the world something Floyd would have never done.
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post May 8 2009, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE (kidbazooka1 @ May 8 2009, 02:09 AM) *
Sure No problem.

Marquez unlike most of Gayweathers past opponents will not just stalk him he is i believe just as smart as Floyd. True he may be a bit smaller and slower but his ring generalship, being able to adapt and bigger heart will be enough to take a close but well deserved decision. And as for Marquez perfromance against Norwood that means sh*t that fight was 10 f*cking years ago when Manny was still getting KO'ed by bums.

And if he doesn't get the win he's still a muthaf*cking badass for fighting the undefeated bigger retired #1 p4p fighter in the world something Floyd would have never done.

Your still not explaining exactly how he is going to be Mayweather. You say he is smaller so does that mean he wont be able to muscle him around or have his way on the inside, you say he is slower so does that mean he wont be able to beat Mayweather to the punch or will his timing be the key? Will he be able to get angles and disrupt Mayweathers rhythem? You say he'll be able to adapt....adapt to what? What is Mayweather going to do that JMM is going to have to adapt to? Please explain to me what exactly JMM will do to shock the world? You say his heart is bigger...hell Chico and Gatti has bigger hearts (as some would consider) but you still dont explain what physically he will do in that ring to pull out a victory.

Thats all I'm asking for.

You sound like I did during the Jones v. Calzaghe fight. You have no earthly idea how he can get in that ring and beat this dude. Hell atleast I was able to say he'll catch him with something he wont see coming early (which happen but didn't finish the job). Can a get a little more than He's not faster, nor bigger, but he has heart?

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post May 8 2009, 07:06 AM
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I think it's great that he'll get a a huge payday after how he's had to toil in obscurity during his career. That $30K payday he got for the Chris John fight that could have went either was inexcusable and his management should have been crucified for taking that.

He'll give Mayweather a much tougher fight than Pacquiao. I like him because he not only doesn't have that traditional "macho Mexican" style but he knows how to adapt and he's very strong willed.

I think he's arguably the pound 4 pound in the sport if not 1b. Congrat$ to him in getting a multi-million dollar payday..
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post May 8 2009, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE (damarvelous1 @ May 7 2009, 09:58 PM) *
As much as I like Floyd, I don't see how you root against Juan Manuel Marquez. I know he has a slim chance but I'll be pulling for him.


I don't think there's anyone on the planet, except for those family members who are direct financial beneficiaries of a Mayweather win, who are rooting against JMM.
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post May 8 2009, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (3King3 @ May 8 2009, 02:20 AM) *
Your still not explaining exactly how he is going to be Mayweather. You say he is smaller so does that mean he wont be able to muscle him around or have his way on the inside, you say he is slower so does that mean he wont be able to beat Mayweather to the punch or will his timing be the key? Will he be able to get angles and disrupt Mayweathers rhythem? You say he'll be able to adapt....adapt to what? What is Mayweather going to do that JMM is going to have to adapt to? Please explain to me what exactly JMM will do to shock the world? You say his heart is bigger...hell Chico and Gatti has bigger hearts (as some would consider) but you still dont explain what physically he will do in that ring to pull out a victory.

Thats all I'm asking for.

You sound like I did during the Jones v. Calzaghe fight. You have no earthly idea how he can get in that ring and beat this dude. Hell atleast I was able to say he'll catch him with something he wont see coming early (which happen but didn't finish the job). Can a get a little more than He's not faster, nor bigger, but he has heart?


How the f*ck am i supposed to know how exactly he is going to beat him. But i can tell you how i I think he might beat him. I believe Marquez will beat Floyd by out countering him. Like i said Floyd maybe quicker and bigger but he is not a volume puncher nor aggressive fighter ala Manny and Diaz. Marquez accuracy is probably better than anyone Floyd has ever faced so i believe Floyd will get hit much more than he's use to which will prevent him from letting his own leather go as much as he will like.

This is my opinion bro and trust me i know im in the minority but that will only make the victory that much sweeter and if im wrong so f*cking what atleast Marquez showed the balls to fight a bigger stonger in his prime fighter who many never gave him a chance agianst.

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post May 8 2009, 09:22 AM
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And you what if Marquez can't get the job done against Floyd Im sure Manny will lay his ass out ofcourse that is if Floyd doesn't price himself out first.

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post May 8 2009, 10:04 AM
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Shucks! I wish Marquez could carry his attributes up with him. There's a way for him to win, really. This is perhaps the first time that Mayweather's defenses will get penetrated. But Marquez needs to get close. He must study how to catch a fleeing chicken if he has to. And wither Floyd's smart bombs too. I don't think Marquez's chin is shaky at 135. He was hit, okay. But remember that the type of punch that "almost killed" Hatton and David Diaz, he was able to survive.

Assuming Marquez has a good chin at 143, it's still hard to imagine him learning how to catch a fleeing chicken... a chicken who potshots. But if he does, Mayweather's in for a shock of his life.

But like most haters say here: Floyd only choose opponents he can beat.
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post May 8 2009, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (torvix2000 @ May 8 2009, 10:04 AM) *
He must study how to catch a fleeing chicken .[/i]


LOL

Good point.

Also it has to be in Mayweathers head that Marquez fought to a standstill twice with Pacquiao the same PAcquiao who destroyed DLH but yet took Foyd to a very close decision and flattened Hatton within 2 rds who went 10 rds with Floyd.

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post May 8 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (torvix2000 @ May 8 2009, 11:04 AM) *
I don't think Marquez's chin is shaky at 135. He was hit, okay. But remember that the type of punch that "almost killed" Hatton and David Diaz, he was able to survive.

Assuming Marquez has a good chin at 143


I am going off of his last fight with Diaz, and I clearly saw JMM wobbled a few times. Juan Diaz is not a big puncher or finisher either, or he would have stopped JMM early in the fight.

So I really see PBF stopping JMM when they fight. Floyd KNOWS he needs to make a statement, and I really think he will in this fight. Floyd talks a great game on the outside regardless, but deep down he realizes no boring pot shotting decision is going to be in his best interest. Floyd knows how important it is to show he is still the P4P best IHO.
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ May 8 2009, 04:14 PM) *
So I really see PBF stopping JMM when they fight. Floyd KNOWS he needs to make a statement, and I really think he will in this fight. Floyd talks a great game on the outside regardless, but deep down he realizes no boring pot shotting decision is going to be in his best interest. Floyd knows how important it is to show he is still the P4P best IHO.


We all know this. The pressure's on him. Problem is if Marquez don't fold and instead dish out volumes of accurate punches. Mayweather will resort to what he did ALA Baldomir. In this case, Marquez could be at a loss.
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