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bnoles4life
post Apr 7 2013, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 7 2013, 05:21 PM) *
this fight is going to be in nyc. i believe there are more cubans than filipinos there. the crowd may favor rigondeaux. also...let's not forget that donaire's last performance in nyc was against narvaez and plenty of the fans boo'd that. it's still in his head...he mentioned it in any interview. if he comes trying to right that wrong and seeking to impress the crowd...that may play to rigondeaux's favor.


Maybe, but if you know like I know, Pinoys and Pinays are EVERYWHERE...lol. They'll come out in droves for Nonito, especially since Manny still seems to be on his Tempur-pedic, courtesy of one JMM. Believe me, if there was remotely a chance of Nonito being out "supported" in this one, I doubt The Bobfather would have it in NYC. This, as you've eluded toward, was to get more interest in Cubans. **Which begs the question, why hasn't EACH and every one of Rigs fights been in Miami?**
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post Apr 7 2013, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 7 2013, 06:15 PM) *
this reminds me of when torres and corley were able to rock cotto....or when trinidad would get dropped in his fights...and it was the reason everyone would pick against him in his next tough fight. the thing that everyone seems to be missing is this: what did he do after he got rocked? everyone gets hurt at one time or another...it's what you do afterwards that impresses me. in rigondeaux's case...he did NOT let marroquin follow up with anything and he came back to drop him and rock him on more than one occasion.

i also look at donaire's fight against narvaez. narvaez was a southpaw who stood at 5'3 and came up in weight to fight donaire. donaire couldn't do shit against him and dude put hands on him more than once. narvaez wasn't a big puncher. rigondeaux is. this is going to be interesting.

Anytime I think of Cotto (in his early days) and Tito getting hurt, it's not about what they did after they got up, it was more about how much of it was actually legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I remember the Cotto/Corley fight being full of fouls, and I don't quite remember if he pushed the envelope in the Torres fight (in regards to fouls). As for Tito, who can forget round 4 of the Vargas fight? I get your point though, most of the fights in which they were hurt, they either came back and won, or they survived all the way to the championship rounds.

Rigo did a decent job of holding in the Marroquin fight after being hurt. However, there's nothing really special about Marroquin's left hook and straight right hand, which is the complete opposite situation from Donaire's standpoint. Honestly, I believe Arum made the Donaire/Rigo fight, based off of Rigo's hard moments of that fight.

As big as Marroquin was, I believe Donaire will be that size or bigger...plus he'll be more athletic than anybody Rigo's been in in with. I believe that the key to this fight is Rigo landing a couple of somewhat big shots early to get Donaire's respect. In all honesty, those big Marroquin hooks that hurt Rigo, landed in the temple area, so to be fair to Rigo, we don't know if his chin is bad or not.

QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 7 2013, 07:28 PM) *
Maybe, but if you know like I know, Pinoys and Pinays are EVERYWHERE...lol. They'll come out in droves for Nonito, especially since Manny still seems to be on his Tempur-pedic, courtesy of one JMM. Believe me, if there was remotely a chance of Nonito being out "supported" in this one, I doubt The Bobfather would have it in NYC. This, as you've eluded toward, was to get more interest in Cubans. **Which begs the question, why hasn't EACH and every one of Rigs fights been in Miami?**

The same question can be asked about Gamboa when he was with Arum. Maybe Arum knows something that we don't know about revenue in Miami. I believe he attempted to hold the Rios/Gamboa presser in Miami, but Gamboa never showed up.

There must be something that we don't know. I believe that's the whole reason why we never got Gamboa/Juanma. Juanma was a big ticket in PR and decent one in the States...the same couldn't be said about Gamboa though. Maybe it was Arum's plan of making it a "superfight" along with the endless requirements of such a superfight caliber, that killed it when Lopez got KO's by Salido.
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post Apr 7 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 6 2013, 08:02 PM) *
You have, which made me watch the fight. Marroquin is no joke though, Marroquin is a better opponent's than all of the opponents Nonito took on last year IMO. He was tall and had that killer left hook like Donaire, but he still got a hurting put on him.

The better opposition for Rigondeaux gets, he still makes his opponents look the same. With Donaire he has the power but every opponent exposes more weaknesses.

Donaire doesn't remind anyone of an asian Hearns? style wise



Good call. He's tallish and has a right hand from the depths of hell.

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post Apr 8 2013, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 7 2013, 06:23 PM) *
+1 Prof.

I love Nonito's skill set and talent. However, I think some on this thread are really overlooking Riggs skillset. While I'll admit, neither have faced an opponent w/ the talent of the other, I really like Rigg's chances in this one. That being said, I know who's the cash cow, who the promoter is backing and who the majority of the fans are coming to see. Good luck, Rigo...you're gonna eff'n need it.


he may need to stop him to get the decision. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 7 2013, 06:28 PM) *
Maybe, but if you know like I know, Pinoys and Pinays are EVERYWHERE...lol. They'll come out in droves for Nonito, especially since Manny still seems to be on his Tempur-pedic, courtesy of one JMM. Believe me, if there was remotely a chance of Nonito being out "supported" in this one, I doubt The Bobfather would have it in NYC. This, as you've eluded toward, was to get more interest in Cubans. **Which begs the question, why hasn't EACH and every one of Rigs fights been in Miami?**


seriously. these guys, and all the promoters who work with the defected cubans, have failed them. arum...i'm convinced, is not good for fighters unless they're mexican or filipino. he's taking the formula he's used with them to china now. rigondeax is by far better than most of arums fighters. he will get promoted the least. if he should beat donaire....look for nothing as a follow up. especially if he starches nonito.
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 7 2013, 11:07 PM) *
that's what he does....and every shot counts.


It does, but you know what judges are like. I think if Donaire looks like he's outworking Rigo he'll get the decision.
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 8 2013, 04:17 PM) *
It does, but you know what judges are like. I think if Donaire looks like he's outworking Rigo he'll get the decision.


yeah. that's accurate.
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My favorite, and perhaps the best, matchup since Calzaghe vs Kessler.

I want Rigondeaux to win and believe he has a good chance, but I can see why Donaire is the -285 favorite.

High risk/low reward for Donaire. He wins too easily and Rigondeaux is looked at as an overrated, hyped am.
He loses, and the p4p glory he's maintained for a few years is erased.

Otoh, Rigondeaux gains with anything other than a blowout loss.
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post Apr 8 2013, 07:35 PM
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mares went on record and is predicting donaire by 7th rd tko. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

he doesn't want to fight rigondeaux either.
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 8 2013, 03:51 PM) *
he may need to stop him to get the decision. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Indeed
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