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> Why are people clamoring for 3G vs Floyd?, When 3G hasn't even beaten an A level fighter yet!!
BrutUalBK
post Feb 2 2014, 03:24 PM
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I just can't understand the justification of people wanting so badly to see GGG vs Mayweather when the fact of the matter is that 3G hasn't even beaten an A level fighter yet.

Here is the list of people 3G has faced and their greatest comp:

C- level opponents:
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Sergey Khomitsky (Record 19W-3L-1D at the time):
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Beat Jamie Moore (Beat Matthew Macklin & Michele Piccirillo et cetera).
Lost to Martin Murray in a very close fight, should have been a draw.

Malik Dziarra (Record 29W-3L-0D at the time):
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Beat Mahir Oral (Former European Union middleweight title-holder and 2 time IBF middleweight title challenger).

Makoto Fuchigami (Record 19W-6L-0D at the time):
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Beat Koji Sato (Former OPBF middleweight title-holder and 1 time WBA World middleweight title challenger).

(Past prime) Javier Alberto Mamani (Record 35W-7L-1D at the time):
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Beat Ariel Gabriel Chaves (Beat Carlos Manuel Baldomir X2).
Beat Crazy Kim (Beat Nobuhiro Ishida X2).
Beat Walter Javier Crucce (X2)
Beat Jose Joaquin Rosa Gomez (Beat Former WBA World lightweight champion Raul Horacio Balbi).
Beat Miguel Angel Arroyo.

C level opponents:
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Mehdi Bouadla (Record 11W-1L-0D at the time):
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Former IBF International super middleweight title-holder.
Former WBO Inter-Continental super middleweight title-holder.
Former WBA International middleweight title-holder.
Beat Morrade Hakkar (Former European middleweight champion).
Beat Michael Henrotin (Former IBF Inter-Continental super middleweight title-holder).
Beat Francisco Antonio Mora (Beat Ariel Gabriel Chaves X2).
Lost TKO 8 to Arthur Abraham for the WBO super middleweight title.

Osumanu Adama (Record 22W-3L-0D at the time):
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Lost UD12 against Daniel Geale for the IBF middleweight title.
Beat Roman Karmazin (Former IBF light middleweight champion & EBU light middleweight champion).
Golovkin is the first to KO him.

Nilson Julio Tapia (Record 14W-2L-1D at the time):
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Beat Santiago Samaniego (Former interim WBA World light middleweight title-holder).
Beat Alfonso Mosquera (Also beat Santiago Samaniego).
Lost MD against Austin Trout (Former WBA World light middleweight champ).
Golovkin is the first to KO him.

Lajuan Simon (Rec 23W-3L-2D at the time):
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Beat Elvin Ayala (Draw against Sergio Mora).
Lost UD 12 against Arthur Abraham for the IBF middleweight title.
Lost UD 12 against Sebastian Sylvester for the IBF International middleweight title.
Beat Corey Johnson (Draw against Shannan Taylor).
Beat Darnell Boone (Bum yet he did beat Adonis Stevenson).
Golovkin is the first to KO him.

(Past prime) Nobuhiro Ishida (Record 24W-8L-2D at the time):
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Former interim WBA World light middleweight title-holder.
Beat James Kirkland (first to defeat and to KO Kirkland).
Beat Javier Alberto Mamani (when it still mattered).
Golovkin is the first to KO him.
Moved up to heavyweight.

Ian Gardner (Record 20W-3L-0D at the time):
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Lost SD against Peter Manfredo Jr.
Beat Deandre Latimore (Beat Sechew Powell and SD loss to Cory Spinks for the IBF light middleweight title).
Beat Kuvanych Toygonbayev (Beat Oba Carr & Andrey Tsurkan).
Beat Tokunbo Olajide.
Beat Troy Rowland (Beat Charles Whittaker).
Beat Gilberto Reyes (Beat Carlos Gonzalez, former WBO light welterweight champion).
Lost UD 12 to Arthur Abraham for the WBA Inter-Continental middleweight title.
Lost TKO 11 to Chad Dawson (Former WBC & IBF light heavyweight champion).

(past prime) Kassim Ouma (Record 27W-7L-1D at the time):
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Former IBF light middleweight champion.
Beat Verno Phillips (X2) (Former IBF light middleweight champion).
Beat Marco Antonio Rubio (Beat Carlos Manuel Baldomir & David Lemieux).
Beat Sechew Powell (Beat Former IBF light middleweight champions Cornelius Bundrage & Ishe Smith).
Beat Alex Bunema (Beat Former IBF light welterweight champion Vince Phillips & IBF middleweight champ Roman Karmazin).
Beat Kuvanych Toygonbayev (Beat Oba Carr & Andrey Tsurkan).
Beat Kofi Jantuah (Beat Marco Antonio Rubio & Santiago Samaniego).
Beat Carlos Bojorquez (Beat Pernell Whitaker).
Beat Tony Marshall.

C+ level opponents:
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Curtis Stevens (Record 25W-3L-0D at the time):
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The Ring's #9 Rated.
Beat Piotr Wilczewski (former european super middleweight champion).
Beat Saul Roman (Beat Marco Antonio Rubio, Kassim Ouma).
Beat Elvin Ayala (Draw against Sergio Mora).
Beat Patrick Majewski with a jab.

Grzegorz Proksa (Record 28W-1L-0D at the time):
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Former European middleweight champion.
The Ring's #10 Rated at the time.
Beat Sebastian Sylvester (Former IBF middleweight champion & European middleweight champion).
Beat Steve Conway (Former International Boxing Organization light middleweight champion).
Beat Pablo Navascues (Draw against Javier Castillejo).

Gabriel Rosado (Record 21W-5L-0D at the time):
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The Ring's #9 Rated junior middleweight (Rosado is bigger than GGG) at the time.
Beat Kassim Ouma (Former IBF light middleweight champion).
Beat Sechew Powell (Beat Former IBF light middleweight champions Cornelius Bundrage & Ishe Smith).
Beat Jesus Soto Karass (Beat former european welterweight champ Selcuk Aydin & former WBC/IBF welterweight champion Andre Berto).
Beat Charles Whittaker (IBF Light Middleweight rankings #2 Spot at the time).
Beat Saul Roman (Beat Marco Antonio Rubio, Kassim Ouma).
Lost TKO 10 to Peter Quillin (fight was an even 85-85, bad cut but Rosado could see no problem, bad timing to stop the fight) (WBO middleweight champion).

B level:
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Matthew Macklin (Record 29W-4L-0D at the time):
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Former European middleweight champion.
Should have won the WBA Super World middleweight title.
The Ring's #5 Rated at the time.
Beat Felix Sturm (robbed) (former WBO & WBA middleweight champion).
Beat Joachim Alcine (former WBA World light middleweight champion).
Beat Amin Asikainen (former European middleweight champion).
Beat Luis Ramon Campas (former IBF light middleweight champion).
Beat Wayne El****.
Lost KO 11 to Sergio Gabriel Martinez (knocked down Martinez in round 7).

Geale, Sturm, Murray, Quillin, Martinez has yet to face 3G to his credit but until that happens then why all the hoopla about him already facing the top of the Mountain in Mayweather?

Your thoughts and justification if you believe he should already be facing Floyd Mayweather please???
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post Feb 2 2014, 04:22 PM
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I have no idea, but I'd rather see GGG face Ward, not Mayweather. Like Mayweather said, "I'm so good, I got heavyweights callin' me out."
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post Feb 2 2014, 04:35 PM
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It's the boogeyman theory. Every time one monster in boxing is brought back to reality then these rabid ass casual fans create a new one. Like Cshel said in a thread he created. Ain't no one clamoring for the next fight if Matthysse. They actually did the same thing with Maidana in previous yrs. When he beat Ortiz, be was seen as some bull on an unstoppable path, then x amount of losses later, it was quiet. Now that he beats Broner, all of a sudden he's a threat again and he's this and that. Why wasn't he this threat after beating Karass or Lopez?

It's all bull in the end, the same thing they're saying about Golovkin, they're saying about Kovalev and Stevenson. The fans want Ward to move up and fight both of them but they don't demand that the 2 fight Bernard. We know why that is....they want Ward to move up in search of an alleged challenge but don't want Golovkin to move up to fight Ward, which is the biggest fight for him. There's no reasonable explanation to condone a fight between Mayweather and Golovkin. Any one who favors him moving down instead of moving up is an idiot in my book. Don't mention a Mayweather fight when his toughest challenge is 8lbs up

GGG says fighters are ducking him, his trainer and promo team say the same thing. Then when Ward says he's down for the fight an others like Froch tell him to bring it, he and Abel Sanchez say "160 is our focus". But when Mayweather is brought up, we'd love that fight we can make the weight. I respect Golovkin but not by much. He's a hype machine, one of the biggest hype jobs I've seen. He got his soul snatched verbally by SMW's and LHW's and he hiding behind 160. He ain't what everybody thinks he is

My thing for those who want to see him fight Mayweather is Ward or stfu, he ignoring his biggest threat. He can keep fighting them Monte Carlo fights, he like beating up in the Ishida's. The boogeyman will be exposed soon enough. He can't hide in that closet forever

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post Feb 2 2014, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 2 2014, 03:35 PM) *
It's the boogeyman theory. Every time one monster in boxing is brought back to reality then these rabid ass casual fans create a new one. Like Cshel said in a thread he created. Ain't no one clamoring for the next fight if Matthysse. They actually did the same thing with Maidana in previous yrs. When he beat Ortiz, be was seen as some bull on an unstoppable path, then x amount of losses later, it was quiet. Now that he beats Broner, all of a sudden he's a threat again and he's this and that. Why wasn't he this threat after beating Karass or Lopez?

It's all bull in the end, the same thing they're saying about Golovkin, they're saying about Kovalev and Stevenson. The fans want Ward to move up and fight both of them but they don't demand that the 2 fight Bernard. We know why that is....they want Ward to move up in search of an alleged challenge but don't want Golovkin to move up to fight Ward, which is the biggest fight for him. There's no reasonable explanation to condone a fight between Mayweather and Golovkin. Any one who favors him moving down instead of moving up is an idiot in my book. Don't mention a Mayweather fight when his toughest challenge is 8lbs up

GGG says fighters are ducking him, his trainer and promo team say the same thing. Then when Ward says he's down for the fight an others like Froch tell him to bring it, he and Abel Sanchez say "160 is our focus". But when Mayweather is brought up, we'd love that fight we can make the weight. I respect Golovkin but not by much. He's a hype machine, one of the biggest hype jobs I've seen. He got his soul snatched verbally by SMW's and LHW's and he hiding behind 160. He ain't what everybody thinks he is

My thing for those who want to see him fight Mayweather is Ward or stfu, he ignoring his biggest threat. He can keep fighting them Monte Carlo fights, he like beating up in the Ishida's. The boogeyman will be exposed soon enough. He can't hide in that closet forever



Man, whatever you do; don't go over to Boxrec.com speaking the truth like this-those European white guys will try to discredit and destroy you over there for putting it down like this.
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post Feb 2 2014, 04:56 PM
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Why is anybody clamoring over Floyd fighting anybody at MW? This has been an ongoing issue for the longest...well, at least for the last couple of years now.
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post Feb 2 2014, 05:03 PM
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people always want what they cant have!
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post Feb 2 2014, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 2 2014, 03:56 PM) *
Why is anybody clamoring over Floyd fighting anybody at MW? This has been an ongoing issue for the longest...well, at least for the last couple of years now.



Well just read some of the Ish said by posters on this forum; quite a few have mentioned they want to see 3G face Floyd but my belief is that the main people who want to see them fight is due to their dislike for Mayweather and for the fact that they believe that 3G is going to do what they want (put him to sleep).

Personally I don't believe that 3G's flat-flooted style and leaky defense would be tailormade for Mayweather.
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:00 PM
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Nah I'd rather he fights Martinez.
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Feb 2 2014, 03:56 PM) *
Man, whatever you do; don't go over to Boxrec.com speaking the truth like this-those European white guys will try to discredit and destroy you over there for putting it down like this.


Is it that bad?
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post Feb 2 2014, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 2 2014, 06:46 PM) *
Is it that bad?


go to facebook and check up on all the boxing groups/forums...it is absolutely ridiculous. this is the most hype and praise i've seen any single fighter get for beating a no name.

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