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mrchitown
post Mar 14 2013, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (dre98 @ Mar 14 2013, 07:13 PM) *
I think its nothing wrong with one displaying your faith but Ward or Guerrero should act like they getting in the squared circle because God put them there or they are fighting for God. Boxing is sport where you fight for money and entertainment not for righteousness or anything like that. Its all entertainment and they should keep it that way. Some people are born with different abilities than others but it doesnt mean your fighting like your Palestine and Israel.


I agree
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post Mar 14 2013, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Mar 14 2013, 08:19 PM) *
We are on the same page, this goes beyond Floyd vs Ward. In everyday life I see so many people waving the religion sword and say they are living according to the good book, but keep up so much crap. Lol it's to point where I find myself monitoring their actions, so I can critique them.


We call that bible thumping lol.....the issue is bigger then Floyd, I think it's more so the religion/God aspect of it. But because Floyd is involved that will get pushed to the side and he's hating and he jealous blah blah blah. I just never understood why because someone champions their faith, which I don't see wrong in..they always get a pass and when someone speaks on them, they're monsters lol

We don't know what's going on behind closed doors. And like I said, Ward is a man of God but he's managed by one of the most notorious gangsters from Houston. J Prince's exploits in the streets are legendary and he's known to rip people off. I give props to Floyd's father for sticking up to Prince back in the day on behalf of his son. That took some balls...but Ward is a great boxer and what he does is what he does but he we don't know if he's as clean cut as some think he is..no one's above criticism, we should all not judge others but criticism and being spoke on is different then judging. And I don't think Floyd was judging him, I think it was a critique that went over the edge but how is he wrong for expressing his opinion
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post Mar 14 2013, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 14 2013, 07:57 PM) *
Man, this thread took off. LOL.


This aint nothing new. Anytime religion is involved, comments always come in abundance
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:03 AM
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Andre S.O.G. Ward ‏@andreward
@danrafaelespn Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for. He won't take that bait!! #SOG

This is dumb, he just opened himself up for criticism by saying this
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post Mar 15 2013, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 07:51 PM) *
Which one? You think he's trying leave a legacy?

I agree, the pussified era is some of the new kids comin up. But no one is above being critiqued, not even Andre. I have no beefs with Ward and I think he's handling it in a classy way, which is a testament to his character. My problem is with his management. And if I'm out of line so fuckin be it but I don't get how he's so bible based and he practically is managed by a man who many consider the devil. It don't work both ways, you can't have it this way and then try to cut off the other way...And in regards to J Prince, I'd be surprised if Ward is managed by him down the road. ALL of his fighters eave him and it's over the same thing..$$$$

I think Floyd did get a little sore about Andre ridin with Guerrero but I don't see the problem with that because correct me if I'm wrong, they go way way back. I don't understand what Floyd sees wrong with him riding for his friend. And I agree we grew up in two different generations. I'ma 80's baby and we don't do the whole speak soft and then fight shit. We'll talk it out and swap it out, at least that's what we did in my hood. I agree that without Roger and Floyd sr he wouldn't be where he is to a certain extent, and you got to say Arum because Arum took a chance on him. But he pushed it to another level and that's something that none of them could've did for him. MJ wouldn't have won rings without Phil Jackson coaching and Scottie Pippen playing his part but that doesn't diminish him and in this case Floyd because they still have to go out and get the job done.

I think he crossed a path in the sense that he attacked Andre for his view on the fight but the religious aspect. I don't agree, no one is above criticism. TBH, I hope they squash it. Both are great talents and instead of this petty and meaningless lil debate they got going, they should be supporting one another and uplifting one another


Good post Nas!!! aka chitown
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post Mar 15 2013, 04:54 AM
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ANDRE WARD CHALLENFED FLOYD TO FIGHT AT A CATCHWRIGHT OF 160 ON TWITTER
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post Mar 15 2013, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 11:03 PM) *
Andre S.O.G. Ward ‏@andreward
@danrafaelespn Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for. He won't take that bait!! #SOG

This is dumb, he just opened himself up for criticism by saying this


Now this is plain dumb! He wouldn't go up to Dawson but he would drop all the way down to 160 which is shit for him. Andre is not turning the other cheek and what happen to Ward keeping quiet and talking like men? Funny have quickly people forget their faith but this is getting him exposure. Floyd can't even make 154 get real Andre now people are going to say Floyd is ducking Ward. Well played. We have weight classes for a reason! But I guess it is true all roads lead to Floyd Mayweather, I guess Ward wants to be apart of the Mayweather sweepstakes, but he first he has to get through Andre Berto! This fight would sell!

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post Mar 15 2013, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 14 2013, 07:53 PM) *
@andreward
I'm not an athlete who happens to be a Christian, but a Christian who happens to be an athlete!!

@andreward
I Won't Sell My Soul For Money, Fans, PPV Buys, or Whatever Else. I'm Not Selling Out!! God Has Been Too Good To Me!! #SOG

@andreward
I'm not just trying to just get or take something from the game...but give something to the game & leave a legacy.

‏@andreward
If a fighter leaves with their facilities in tact, finances in tact, integrity in tact. You can call that a successful career in my book.

‏@andreward
I love boxing y'all...but there is more to my life than lacing up boxing gloves. It's a small part of my life.

‏@andreward
One day boxing will end. No more fans, no more big checks, no more tv. People will be cheering someone else on. Then...who are you

Got to give it up to Ward, he is forever the class act


What does Andre Ward do other than boxing. I feel him on that one day his time will end in boxing with no more fans checks and TV. But he's wrong, because if you do the right things in your career you SHOULD still have FANS, CHECKS, and TV...If i was one of these boxers SGR type legacies. I would've hopped my ass to ESPN a longgg time ago. The most i hear from boxing is at FIRST TAKE and its just Mayweather or Pacquiao. Hopkins went on the show and talked about Mayweather vs Pacquiao more than promote his own fight, he didnt even say Cloud's name lol. Atleast commentators, my favorite part during the fight comments comes from the boxers input RJJ, Tarver, George Forman, Mallanaggi, even Ward like once...He's a gold medalist, for America, the last one from america in Boxing in awhile actually , the media would eat that shit up, all he needs is his name brought up more, pride of the country. Maybe he really hasn't sold his soul and that's why he isn't getting any of the exposure he should.

I'm Not saying that Ward should just do whatever for popularity. But there's no doubt that once you hear Boxing Gold medalist and you see him dominate, you have respect and become a fan right away. It only took 1 fight for me to become a fan. His most popular and best fight was against Dawson, he decimated him. Dawson was my dude too, when he quit even i put my head down like "Damm, Ward is no joke". No one ever questions if Ward has the skills, but his legacy isn't as respected and brought up as much as it should be.. Dude is the only Gold Medalist from America that currently boxes, the others that i know of are either Latino or Chinese....

It just goes to show the different kind of legacy's one may have, You can be a Gold Medalist and have a Career like Sugar Ray Leonard or have one like Andre Ward. The choice is yours
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post Mar 15 2013, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 14 2013, 12:52 PM) *
one good showing doesn't make him more popular. like i said...ward has been around for quite some time and has headlined his own shows way more times than broner. broner is still new to the game. he may pass ward in popularity....doesn't make him any better a fighter.


Come on professor. Your reaching now. Nobodies saying Ward isnt a great fighter. Beibers more popular than Sting but that doesnt make him the better artist. Broners getting 1.4 mil views after 2 headline performances. You think that numbers going down?
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post Mar 15 2013, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE (Jovi @ Mar 15 2013, 08:41 AM) *
What does Andre Ward do other than boxing. I feel him on that one day his time will end in boxing with no more fans checks and TV. But he's wrong, because if you do the right things in your career you SHOULD still have FANS, CHECKS, and TV..


This +1000

Respect and honor is cool. It will help you sleep better at night. However, not maximizing your marketability is stupid. This guy is talented inside and outside of the ring. He's speaks far better than Floyd. He's knowledgeable and charismatic. He has a far better reputation with in terms of his seemingly squeaky clean background. I'm not saying sell your soul to the devil but there's no reason why Ward shouldn't be a household name. I think he's doing himself a huge disservice.
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