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post Jul 18 2011, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jul 17 2011, 10:59 PM) *
I wonder if Vitali had not had that hideous cut forcing the stoppage, would he have won? I would say yes, I think Lewis would have been stopped in about the 10th round.


I wonder if Lewis would have been in shape if the fight would be that close.
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post Jul 18 2011, 04:44 AM
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I wonder why Lewis didn't get paid for the rematch.
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jul 17 2011, 09:59 PM) *
I actually had Vitali-Lewis 3-3 at the stoppage, even though Vitali was more effective at winning his rounds that Lewis was at winning his rounds. That fight was one of the best heavyweight wars for recent years.

I wonder if Vitali had not had that hideous cut forcing the stoppage, would he have won? I would say yes, I think Lewis would have been stopped in about the 10th round.


Lewis was coming on very strong even though he was clearly out of shape and exhausted. I think he would have either gotten Vitali out in the next couple of rounds or he would have been ko'd late. Great fight.

I always find it interesting that Lewis, who was essentially a clean fighter, threw a very late shot after the bell in the 6th - and so the last professional punch of his career was an intentional cheap shot. Just a little factoid.
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:56 AM
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The Klitschko's are very skillful. Other big men aren't as quick or as smart as they are. Credit must be given, they fight the only way they really can, and they fight to their complete potential. Of how many athletes can you say that without hyperbole? They've been so dominant and have made it look so easy that nobody takes any consideration for the disadvantages inherent in being so big. For one, you're a big ass motherfucker whose heart literally can't pump enough blood to handle a fast pace fight, and are also susceptible to sudden fatigue and breathlessness. If you're looking for a model of consistent excellence, it probably wouldn't be from a 6'6'' lumbering giant.

Whoever is going to beat them is gonna have to back them into the ropes and unleash rib-crushing body shots. That requires some speed, a good deal of power, good stamina, a solid chin, and more than a little courage. All qualities their current line of opponents simply dont have. Otherwise, one would have to force the Klitchko's into a fire fight and hope to wear them out that way. Good luck.

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post Jul 18 2011, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 18 2011, 05:51 AM) *
i like Joe Louis but he's not beating Vitali. i think he would have some success against him but Vitali would beat him just due to the size difference. Wlad is a different story, i think he puts on a clinic in that one. i could see Louis beating him by a wide margin.



Remember if Louis was around today he'd be a lot bigger than the 185-200lb's he weighed throughout his career.


He'd have bulked up scientifically and would be the kind of size Adamek is. That would be big enough for him to outbox and punish Vitali IMO. I think Adamek may give Klitschko trouble with his speed and skills, so Louis would have a field day.



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post Jul 18 2011, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Jul 18 2011, 09:56 AM) *
Whoever is going to beat them is gonna have to back them into the ropes and unleash rib-crushing body shots.


It's already been proven, more than once, that it does NOT take backing "them into the ropes and unleashing rib-crushing body shots".

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post Jul 18 2011, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jul 17 2011, 09:49 AM) *
They are NOT dominant fighters. With the size advantage they have over EVERYONE ELSE, they should be putting motherfuckers to SLEEP in DOMINANT fashion. Fighting scared, biting on ervery damn feint because you are scared of your own shadow is embarrassing. Its a total SHIT division, and if they were dominant, they'd be blowing dudes out. They're not. Wladdy fights like an amateur. I dunno. Thee guys do nothing for me. Absolutely NOTHING.


They are though. Simple, they dominate this era. Yep, it's a poor era, one of the divisions worst but the fact remains they still dominate it. Like it or not, it's the truth.
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post Jul 18 2011, 02:36 PM
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From where I sit, you need a 12 gauge shotgun. David Haye showed us something. Wlad was tagged by a few leaping lead right hands. Wlad also moves very slowly going backwards. Put intelligent pressure on him and check his chin with bombs. Someone that can use athletic ablities stands a shot at beating Wlad. Agility, smarts, and power will do the job.
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post Jul 18 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (blackbelt2003 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:17 PM) *
Remember if Louis was around today he'd be a lot bigger than the 185-200lb's he weighed throughout his career.


He'd have bulked up scientifically and would be the kind of size Adamek is. That would be big enough for him to outbox and punish Vitali IMO. I think Adamek may give Klitschko trouble with his speed and skills, so Louis would have a field day.



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i think Louis doesn't lose by a wide margin but drops rounds because of Vitali's style. he wants to make you come to him and always puts a punch out to keep you back. i see Louis dropping early rounds trying to figure him out. i think it would be a solid 116-112 for Vitali. in a 15 round fight i think Louis could make it real close.

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post Jul 18 2011, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Jul 18 2011, 02:31 PM) *
It's already been proven, more than once, that it does NOT take backing "them into the ropes and unleashing rib-crushing body shots".


Just because it's been attempted doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Physical talent is assumed here. You're not gonna beat a Klitschko on strategy alone.
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