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Jul 25 2012, 01:27 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
lol ima stop before i get attacked. I said Mosely ALMOST put mayweather down, the feint jab then right hand behind it. You're telling me mosely can almost knock down mayweather and cotto can jab mayweather bloody and broner wont put up a good fight?!...Mayweather is much older than he was before, he isnt boxing and being as illusive as he used to be, hes been standing in the pocket alot more. Mayweather would have to be able to keep up with younger, stronger, and possibly faster fighter than him. He would have to teach him a lesson, sometimes the student beats the teacher. Its not like broner doesnt have skills oops. i missed the word "almost." sorry about that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i do believe broner will give floyd a run for his money and may even have the tools to beat floyd...but that fight will never happen. |
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Jul 25 2012, 01:29 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
hes kinda like floyd, actually a mix of floyd and roy jones jr, BUT watching the ponce fight he got hit wayyyy to much ponce is a different kind of fighter though. he only fights one way....aggressively. he'll take shots to give shots and he will throw with u. floyd is not really an aggressive fighter so he will have to come out of his normal shell to get to broner. broner has some great speed and reflexes. floyd has the advantage in intelligence and experience. youth is on broners side. it wouldn't be a one sided affair. |
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Jul 25 2012, 01:32 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Floyd is a welterweight, Broner is a superfeatherweigt... 2 weight classes between them but fight night weight differense - 3-4 pounds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) i don't know it to be true but someone recently told me broner has fought as high as 152 in the amateurs. i've seen him in person...he's solid. he's a small to average size welter. he may grown into a full fledge welter one day though. |
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Jul 25 2012, 04:50 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,533 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
floyd is not really an aggressive fighter so he will have to come out of his normal shell to get to broner. I doubt that he will have to do anything outside of the ordinary. The fact that he hardly throws punches and is willing to stand there and defend while you throw, leads most guys to get careless. Youth is on Broner's side, but inexperience and being overly aggressive may hurt him in that aspect. For YEARS (post 140), I always thought that Floyd had a problem mounting his own offense because he was so defensive and waiting to counter. As of the last couple years, since the Mosley fight, I believe he's made some guys shit their pants in disbelief of him mounting and offense and walking into the danger zone. During the build up of fights, his opponents were telling him not to "run", so they could trick him into exchanges, then suddenly he started being more offensive (like the younger years) and guys didn't know what to do. |
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Jul 25 2012, 05:36 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
I doubt that he will have to do anything outside of the ordinary. The fact that he hardly throws punches and is willing to stand there and defend while you throw, leads most guys to get careless. Youth is on Broner's side, but inexperience and being overly aggressive may hurt him in that aspect. For YEARS (post 140), I always thought that Floyd had a problem mounting his own offense because he was so defensive and waiting to counter. As of the last couple years, since the Mosley fight, I believe he's made some guys shit their pants in disbelief of him mounting and offense and walking into the danger zone. During the build up of fights, his opponents were telling him not to "run", so they could trick him into exchanges, then suddenly he started being more offensive (like the younger years) and guys didn't know what to do. yeah...he has been standing and trading...but none of those guys had the speed or defense that broner does. |
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Jul 25 2012, 08:51 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,135 Joined: 23-May 11 Member No.: 12,366 |
I still can't help Floyd could of dealt with Ponce in a simpler fashion and more convincing way than Broner did. That's not the issue, there both there to counter punch, it's simple, and I think the man that loses is the man that takes the role of the aggressor, simple as that, am still saying that's why Marquez lost like that, he's hardly ever been the aggressor, and that night he was forced to become one. Otherwise you have two men waiting on the other to make a mistake, and each man waiting on the other = a snooze fest, and when I saw snooze fest I don't actually mean a tactical bout, I mean a bout were hardly any punches are thrown. But the way Broner was being hit by Ponce makes me think he's there to be hit, I mean Ponce actually managed to hit him cleanly, and back out, and then for some reason get caught, am not sure if it was fatigue but it was obvious that Broner didn't have command of that shoulder role anywhere near the level of Mayweather.
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Jul 26 2012, 11:05 AM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 6-February 12 Member No.: 13,529 |
If they were to fight next week, i honestly wouldnt even know who to pick. Mayweather is mayweather but broner has studied him good enough i feel, unless mayweather decided to box him and was point. But judging from his last fight with cotto i dont really know, his nose was leaking, thats the bloodiest ive seen him. Broner is fast, strong, good defense, can counter, and does everything mayweather does lol. But broner has that quick counter left. Mayweather i feel would have to dodge more and be more active and run down broner. Idk if he would at this stage, well if they were to fight at the same weight, i think broner would still be bigger, stronger, and just as fast if not faster...i wouldnt want to underestimate either of them but if broner hit mayweather with enough shots, i see the first actual knockdown in mayweathers career... It would be a great fight, i dont wanna disrespect mayweather lol but it would be a very close fight..... broner vs russell jr would be the new Mayweather/judah haha but thats for another thread... Though russell would smash on judah For real man! do you even think Broner would have a chance against Mayweather at this stage!? Broner has fought no one at 130 compared to Floyd! Just watch how slick Floyd was at 130 and then go and watch Broner's fights and you will see how superior Mayweather is!! Mayweather lost a little bit of speed since he moved to welterweight but don't make the mistake of thinking Broner is faster or stronger! I believe they have equal speed now but Mayweather is definitely much stronger physically! When mayweather was fighting at 130-135 he was twice as fast as Broner is now!! I don't really understand how the hell can you even compare both when Broner has never beat any solid competition, Broner never even fought at 135... Do you really think Broner would stand a chance against the version of Cotto that Mayweather fought in May? I don't even think Broner would make it past Gamboa!! Broner is probably one off the most skilled fighters of his generation, but thinking he would stand chance against Mayweather right now is the most absurd thing i heard in a while!! If they were the same age at 130 or 135 Floyd knocks Broner out for sure!! What's even more funny is hearing you talking about Broner's quick left-hook! C'mon man, Broner copied that punch from Floyd and Roy Jones, and Floyd definitely throws it much better than Broner! Floyd knocked Hatton down with that punch, Floyd knocked Corrales down with same punch as well! The difference in the Corrales and Hatton fight is that in the Corrales fight Floyd was going forward when he threw the punch and in the Hatton fight Floyd was going backwards what resulted in the amazing check left-hook! I like Broner he's not even on Mayweather's level!! |
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Jul 26 2012, 11:42 AM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 20-June 12 From: Texas Member No.: 13,708 |
What do yall think about the Matchup between Floyd and Broner, say in late 2013 at 147 or 145? Do you think Broner has a chance? I think that would be a matchup for Floyd where the fans that normally hate and root against him would be pulling for him real hard. Personally i think it would help expand his fanbase that much more and look favorable at him, especially now as i can see people being really really turned off by the Broner and his douchey persona, which IMO is way worse than Floyd. I would love to see Floyd put a beat down on him. I think this fight could make people who hate on him turn to him in a real way. BTW whats up with Ben riding on Broner so much? The whole front page is Broner. You'd think Broner was in a very high profile PPV with all the coverage Ben is giving him. I mean he only fought a C class fighter in Escobedo. I mean if he was fighting some elite fighter then id understand but damn its to much. Is Broner keeping Ben warm and fresh while Floyd is locked up? Man Ben you are going to make FLoyd mad at you? Anyways what do yall think of FLoyd vs Broner in late 2013? First of all I don't think! Second, no fighter can do Floyd better than Floyd-you can't outMayweather a Mayweather. Broner is the photocopy, Floyd is the real deal and no matter what Broner will never be ready or able to beat Floyd. I actually like Broner as a fighter but he still has some things he would need to prove like having a great chin and adjusting to a style that he stole from a naturally bigger opponent who is smarter in the ring than any fighter in the world. |
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Jul 26 2012, 01:01 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,169 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
I still can't help Floyd could of dealt with Ponce in a simpler fashion and more convincing way than Broner did. That's not the issue, there both there to counter punch, it's simple, and I think the man that loses is the man that takes the role of the aggressor, simple as that, am still saying that's why Marquez lost like that, he's hardly ever been the aggressor, and that night he was forced to become one. Otherwise you have two men waiting on the other to make a mistake, and each man waiting on the other = a snooze fest, and when I saw snooze fest I don't actually mean a tactical bout, I mean a bout were hardly any punches are thrown. But the way Broner was being hit by Ponce makes me think he's there to be hit, I mean Ponce actually managed to hit him cleanly, and back out, and then for some reason get caught, am not sure if it was fatigue but it was obvious that Broner didn't have command of that shoulder role anywhere near the level of Mayweather. totally agree with this whole post. ponce was throwing with broner. that's the key to dealing with speed. he did the same thing with gamboa. |
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Jul 26 2012, 01:27 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,687 Joined: 21-April 07 From: New York, New York Member No.: 5,991 |
First of all I don't think! Second, no fighter can do Floyd better than Floyd-you can't outMayweather a Mayweather. Broner is the photocopy, Floyd is the real deal and no matter what Broner will never be ready or able to beat Floyd. I actually like Broner as a fighter but he still has some things he would need to prove like having a great chin and adjusting to a style that he stole from a naturally bigger opponent who is smarter in the ring than any fighter in the world. Great post... Broner gets done like Hopkins did Trinidad... please the boy is a 22 year old puppy... He has speed and quickness but it takes more than that to beat the most CEREBRAL FIGHTER IN THE GAME... This post has been edited by neophyte7: Jul 26 2012, 01:31 PM |
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