[D-MARV]

Couldn't have said it better.

Jack

Yes you could.

Marvelous

[D-MARV]

And the funny thing about it is that Floyd helped Arum do it to him.

About the only thing in this post that I agree with.

Its also obvious that Arum is having Pacquiao face the likes of Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey in large part because Mayweather refused to fight those guys.

Nope. Arum is tossing all these names in the ring with Pacquiao because it's all in-house pussy, it's called "Pimping". Arum is treating his stable like a hooker ring and Pacquiao just happens to be his number 1 bimbo.

I look for Top Rank to milk the hell out of Pacquiao-Margarito and do everything in their power to make this an absolute smash because that will put Floyd at a significant disadvantage at the negotiating table.

Let's see... Pacquiao smashes Margarito while Floyd smashed the guy who smashed Margarito first. Hmmmm... I'm not to sure how that gives Manny the edge at the negotiating table. If Pacquiao-Margarito can do over 1.5 million PPV buys then you would have a valid argument.

His leverage is all but gone now.

How? He just schooled that guy who Pacquiao BLATANTLY ducked.

Arum and Pacquiao proceeded to call Mayweather's bluff and Floyd folded.

Why didn't they call his bluff in January?

There is no reason for this to not happen unless somebody wants it to NOT happen. Some say its Arum. I'm not so sure. Surely Bob must know that Pacquiao is not going to be fighting too much longer. I say Manny at most has 2 more years left in boxing before he dedicates himself to being a full time politician.

This is very true... Certain individuals definitely don't want to see this fight happen at this moment for whatever reasons BUT Floyd wanted this fight on March 13.
and Yes, Bob Arum is aware that Pacquiao will likely hang them up after a couple of more fights which is exactly why Bob has been lining up "in house" fighters that have next to NO chance of beating Pacquiao.

Its not that much of a mystery, my friends. FLOYD MAYWEATHER, thats who.. Its not about the money. Floyd can make 20 plus million fighting somebody like Sergio Mora.. Floyd can make that kind of money fighting anybody he wants not named Pacquiao. And he knows that. So why turn down 40 plus million??...

Well, it is about the money. We're talking about a guy who calls himself "Money". You see, like Pacquiao, I only see Floyd fighting a couple of more times before he has to hang them up. There will be NO other paydays like Pacquiao available if he does not take this fight. Sure Floyd can make 15 million fighting the likes of Marquez or Mora but that's a HELLUVA lot less then 50 or even 60 million to fight Pacquiao. Floyd may be arrogant, annoying, and snobby but he's certainly not stupid. I find it hard to believe that Floyd will turn down 50 million dollars not to fight Pacquiao.

Its all about that 0... Thats what this boils down to at the end of all the bullshit and smokescreens in the media. Floyd may not be scared of the man Pacquiao himself. But I truly believe Floyd is very afraid of losing. I don't think he could handle the mere thought of losing.

Sure, Floyd puts a lot of stock in that "0". I think he likes Money more than he likes to be undefeated though.

Which is why as he's moved up in weight he's gotten more careful and selective about which fights to take. And since Floyd has come back, nothing's changed.

Floyd moved up in weight because that is where the money was at. He laid out his plan years ago. He's been chasing De La Hoya for a number of years. And what do you mean nothing's change? He came back and fought a guy that MANY claimed he ducked all these years.

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[Keith]

Dude, sorry to tell you. That this point of view you have is absolute fantasy. I mean, I've read really bad commentary before, but dam. This really is the silliest shit I've ever read. The man that holds the cards is the man that earns the biggest paydays. And he ain't with Top Rank! Also, as for King. I'm sure Arum would welcome his old nemesis to the negotiating table because "with DON KING, WE KNOW THE FIGHT WILL BE MADE". See man, it's time for scrubs like you to really open there eyes and get off Manny's crotch! The fact of the matter is that both of these fighters badly want this fight. The politics of dancing are so strong that Floyd is looking for another way to get this fight made, because his current group obviously can't get it done. So Floydie is being proactive in his own way to make it happen on his terms. Go Floyd!! Fuck the Naysayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being a clown.

PR316 is a respected member of the forum.

Learn to disagree with respect.

[JD]

Interestingly, Iole reported that Pacquiao - Cotto was a much bigger weekend for Vegas casinos than Mayweather - Mosley...I think 50 / 50 is fair.

And while Top Rank is annoying with the keeping it in the fam...Floyd has been fighting under the GBP promotional license for a little while now, when is the last time he fought a non-GBP fighter?

Arum and Floyd have so much disdain for each other because they are so much alike.

[D-MARV]

Did Hatton have any affiliation with Golden Boy? I really don't remember.


Marquez was definitely a set up for Floyd and Shane was the best possible fight that Floyd could have taken.

I don't think ANYONE is hyped for this Margarito-Pacquiao fight outside of a few hardcore fans. This fight will do SHIT compared to Mayweather-Mosley.

[gravytrain]

Did Hatton have any affiliation with Golden Boy? I really don't remember.


Marquez was definitely a set up for Floyd and Shane was the best possible fight that Floyd could have taken.

I don't think ANYONE is hyped for this Margarito-Pacquiao fight outside of a few hardcore fans. This fight will do SHIT compared to Mayweather-Mosley.

No, Hatton had no affiliation with GBP. The funny thing is Arum proposed Mayweather/Hatton while Mayweather was still a TR fighter.

I might try to watch a stream of Pacquiao/Margarito, I don't really care to see the Tijuana Light Breeze get embarrassed. I think it does the same as the Clottey fight, maybe a little better.

[Guest_Fitz_*]

No, Hatton had no affiliation with GBP. The funny thing is Arum proposed Mayweather/Hatton while Mayweather was still a TR fighter.

I might try to watch a stream of Pacquiao/Margarito, I don't really care to see the Tijuana Light Breeze get embarrassed. I think it does the same as the Clottey fight, maybe a little better.

Are you sure? I was sure that Hatton signed to GBP at least, and I also thought that they promoted or had something to do with the Mayweather-Hatton fight.

[thehype]

Interestingly, Iole reported that Pacquiao - Cotto was a much bigger weekend for Vegas casinos than Mayweather - Mosley...I think 50 / 50 is fair.

And while Top Rank is annoying with the keeping it in the fam...Floyd has been fighting under the GBP promotional license for a little while now, when is the last time he fought a non-GBP fighter?

Arum and Floyd have so much disdain for each other because they are so much alike.

Casino revenue is irrelevant. Well...I shouldn't say that, but the only REAL relevance it has is when it comes to them making an offer for the venue. Other than that, it's all about PPV money baby...at least that's all HBO and advertisers really care about. LOL.

For the record, Ricky Hatton was the last time Floyd fought a non-GBP fighter.

In fact, technically speaking, the only Golden Boy fighters he's fought were Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar De La Hoya.

Actually, come to think of it, Manny Pacquiao has fought more Golden Boy fighters (Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera) than Floyd has. And don't get me started on his list of Top Rank fighters, including Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto, David Diaz, Jorge Solis, Hector Velazquez, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez (the first fight).

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[thehype]

Are you sure? I was sure that Hatton signed to GBP at least, and I also thought that they promoted or had something to do with the Mayweather-Hatton fight.

I'm pretty sure.

March 12, 2008, 9:09 AM ET
British boxer Hatton joins Golden Boy Promotions
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/ne...tory?id=3282542

Or you can check here: http://tinyurl.com/39kea9p

Or here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ricky+Hatton+signs+with+Golden+Boy

I think Floyd was still retired around that time.

Golden Boy had something to do with the promotion because ever since Floyd split with Arum, Golden Boy has sold their promotional services to him.

[thehype]

After the fight in St Louis this past weekend, Floyd was seen hanging out with Sam Watson who works with Al Hayman.

I'm not sure what's going on but I'll be interested in seeing how this thing plays out.

I already told you what's going on and how this will play out.

Revisit this link: http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.p...6087&st=10#

Do you guys think I'm just making blind guesses?

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Just messin with ya...but the fact that he was hanging with Watson is all you really need to know to figure it all out.

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