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> WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CELEBRATE HOPKINS?, Before the doping Armstrong was heraleded!!
Dolimite
post Mar 11 2013, 01:10 PM
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Same reason why they do not celebrate: Vick (before the dog fighting), Mayweather, TO, Moss, and Kareem Abdul Jabar and a slew of other African American male athletes. They do not fit the mode of what they want an athlete to be, oh throw Allen Iverson in that mix. Jack Johnson as well. They do not do a coon show for them, they don't shuck and jive. They are up front and honest and America can not deal with that type of black man. They are too real and they may tell the truth about how the world works and they can not have that. They want to control black athletes and when one bucks the system then they are iced out. They are threatening to the establishment. Everyone has to be happy on the plantation and if one says that Masta ain't god, then there is the problem or if they do not follow Masta's rules that is another major problem or they do not tell lies and act like everything is cool then they are immediately iced out. That is why B Hopkins will not be accepted by white America, he is just too damn real!

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post Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Mar 11 2013, 02:10 PM) *
Same reason why they do not celebrate: Vick (before the dog fighting), Mayweather, TO, Moss, and Kareem Abdul Jabar and a slew of other African American male athletes. They do not fit the mode of what they want an athlete to be, oh throw Allen Iverson in that mix. Jack Johnson as well. They do not do a coon show for them, they don't shuck and jive. They are up front and honest and America can not deal with that type of black man. They are too real and they may tell the truth about how the world works and they can not have that. They want to control black athletes and when one bucks the system then they are iced out. They are threatening to the establishment. Everyone has to be happy on the plantation and if one says that Masta ain't god, then there is the problem or if they do not follow Masta's rules that is another major problem or they do not tell lies and act like everything is cool then they are immediately iced out. That is why B Hopkins will be accepted by white America, he is just too damn real!




Agreed..but be careful Truth is stranger than fiction around here quite often when it comes to ole massa--- also..Hopkins is a MUSLIM.. been one for years. used to be more overt, yet has suppressed it very well the last decade or so... once you are found to be connected with any version of Islam as a Black man you are not going to be received well by the SO CALLED - dominant society

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post Mar 11 2013, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:23 PM) *
Agreed..but be careful Truth is stranger than fiction around here quite often when it comes to ole massa--- also..Hopkins is a MUSLIM.. been one for years. used to be more overt, yet has suppressed it very well the last decade or so... once you are found to be connected with any version of Islam as a Black man you are not going to be received well by the SO CALLED - dominant society


Totally forgot about that tid bit....not that it should be relevant.
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post Mar 11 2013, 05:39 PM
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What in the world, how dare people here cry racism when America loved loud, outspoken, foul-mouthed black fighters like Ali and Tyson, even till this day. People loved black fighters as far back as Joe Louis and Ray Robinson eras. Race and nationality does play a factor in the sport, but to blame Hopkins' success in popularity on his race is asinine to me. Hopkins is simply not an appealing person to the masses, in the ring and outside of it.

Also, there was a headline article on MSN about Hopkins' victory over Cloud, it didn't go anywhere because he's just not appealing. He was also headlined when he beat Pascal to become the oldest man in the sport to win a title. Hopkins can't sell, never could.

Another thing, both Ali and Tyson were both proud and open about their faith in Islam, so how does that play a factor? Unless you consider how times changed and Islam is now more hated than ever...

And another, name one white fighter that was ever bigger in the sport than your known black fighters? Not a single one. Most people today can't even identify people like Willie Pep or Jake LoMatta...

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post Mar 11 2013, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Mar 11 2013, 11:23 AM) *
Agreed..but be careful Truth is stranger than fiction around here quite often when it comes to ole massa--- also..Hopkins is a MUSLIM.. been one for years. used to be more overt, yet has suppressed it very well the last decade or so... once you are found to be connected with any version of Islam as a Black man you are not going to be received well by the SO CALLED - dominant society


The kid from UCLA Muhammad Shabazz the guard, Muslim and the media hates him. His family is well to do and they threw a fit because he wore a Gucci back pack to an interview they questioned he got it, his sister gave it to him. Now another kid had the same backpack but he was mixed and no one said nothing. The fact that Shabazz told Kentucky to go to hell really got them all hot and bothered. Wrong faith again look at Kareem. Can't get a coaching job but yet PJ Carlismo is coaching!!!!

QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 03:39 PM) *
What in the world, how dare people here cry racism when America loved loud, outspoken, foul-mouthed black fighters like Ali and Tyson, even till this day. People loved black fighters as far back as Joe Louis and Ray Robinson eras. Race and nationality does play a factor in the sport, but to blame Hopkins' success in popularity on his race is asinine to me. Hopkins is simply not an appealing person to the masses, in the ring and outside of it.

Also, there was a headline article on MSN about Hopkins' victory over Cloud, it didn't go anywhere because he's just not appealing. He was also headlined when he beat Pascal to become the oldest man in the sport to win a title. Hopkins can't sell, never could.

Another thing, both Ali and Tyson were both proud and open about their faith in Islam, so how does that play a factor? Unless you consider how times changed and Islam is now more hated than ever...

They like loud ignorant black athletes! See Charles Barkley and Steven A Smith. They hated Tyson while he was boxing and hated Ali while he was boxing. On recently have they changed their tune. Many people felt Mike Tyson should had been committed and they wanted to kill Ali. It wasn't until Mike calm down and stared in the Hangover before the world showed him love and society finally saw how amazing a person Ali was way after his career was over.
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post Mar 11 2013, 06:56 PM
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What in the world, how dare people here cry racism when America loved loud, outspoken, foul-mouthed black fighters like Ali and Tyson, even till this day. People loved black fighters as far back as Joe Louis and Ray Robinson eras. Race and nationality does play a factor in the sport, but to blame Hopkins' success in popularity on his race is asinine to me. Hopkins is simply not an appealing person to the masses, in the ring and outside of it.

Also, there was a headline article on MSN about Hopkins' victory over Cloud, it didn't go anywhere because he's just not appealing. He was also headlined when he beat Pascal to become the oldest man in the sport to win a title. Hopkins can't sell, never could.

Another thing, both Ali and Tyson were both proud and open about their faith in Islam, so how does that play a factor? Unless you consider how times changed and Islam is now more hated than ever...

And another, name one white fighter that was ever bigger in the sport than your known black fighters? Not a single one. Most people today can't even identify people like Willie Pep or Jake LoMatta...





Rocky Marciano

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post Mar 11 2013, 07:25 PM
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He's a talented black man that isn't a slave to the system and says and does what he wants. Of course America doesn't campaign for him, but he always gets the last laugh

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post Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 11 2013, 04:39 PM) *
What in the world, how dare people here cry racism when America loved loud, outspoken, foul-mouthed black fighters like Ali and Tyson, even till this day. People loved black fighters as far back as Joe Louis and Ray Robinson eras. Race and nationality does play a factor in the sport, but to blame Hopkins' success in popularity on his race is asinine to me. Hopkins is simply not an appealing person to the masses, in the ring and outside of it.

Also, there was a headline article on MSN about Hopkins' victory over Cloud, it didn't go anywhere because he's just not appealing. He was also headlined when he beat Pascal to become the oldest man in the sport to win a title. Hopkins can't sell, never could.

Another thing, both Ali and Tyson were both proud and open about their faith in Islam, so how does that play a factor? Unless you consider how times changed and Islam is now more hated than ever...

And another, name one white fighter that was ever bigger in the sport than your known black fighters? Not a single one. Most people today can't even identify people like Willie Pep or Jake LoMatta...


I guess I didn't get the memo that Ali and Tyson were loved when they were fighting. Them 2 were ridiculed, belittled and everything in between when they were fighting. They came out and championed Tyson, then when he seemed indestructible they turned on him and called him an animal. he's just now getting the love from "America" that he should've been getting all along

If Ali was so loved then why did the mainstream applaud and cheer against him when he fought and lost to Frazier in their 1st fight. Ali is another fighter who wasn't loved til years later

Joe Louis? Look what they did to him, remember they told him in order for him to get a shot he had to not do what Jack Johnson did and he was to act and be a certain way in the public. If that's love then I don't want it. How the f*ck you figure they loved Joe Louis when the papers always referred to him with those racist nicknames? They put him together and they busted him out. Look how he died, dude didn't have nothing. F*ck that, you got a funny definition of love.
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post Mar 11 2013, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 11 2013, 07:32 PM) *
I guess I didn't get the memo that Ali and Tyson were loved when they were fighting. Them 2 were ridiculed, belittled and everything in between when they were fighting. They came out and championed Tyson, then when he seemed indestructible they turned on him and called him an animal. he's just now getting the love from "America" that he should've been getting all along

If Ali was so loved then why did the mainstream applaud and cheer against him when he fought and lost to Frazier in their 1st fight. Ali is another fighter who wasn't loved til years later

Joe Louis? Look what they did to him, remember they told him in order for him to get a shot he had to not do what Jack Johnson did and he was to act and be a certain way in the public. If that's love then I don't want it. How the f*ck you figure they loved Joe Louis when the papers always referred to him with those racist nicknames? They put him together and they busted him out. Look how he died, dude didn't have nothing. F*ck that, you got a funny definition of love.



To be fair, America turned on Mike when it was revealed that he allegedly committed two taboos: Domestic violence w/ Robin Givens and rape w/ Desiree Washington. No matter how we feel about the accusations, can't really use Mike as an example when he has those two on his docket.
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:10 PM
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[quote name='Dolimite' date='Mar 11 2013, 06:48 PM' post='575472']
The kid from UCLA Muhammad Shabazz the guard, Muslim and the media hates him.

mmmmmm... The zionist/racist media will forever be uncomfortable with the names Muhammad and Shabazz---

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