[The Ollie Reed F...]

Who cares about the fucking reason for the delay? Who cares about the fucking numbers to begin with? Some of y'all are acting like you're getting paid off the final numbers.

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I mean, I can name a TON of fights that I never even HEARD the final numbers for. Christ, we still haven't gotten an official number on Pacquiao-Mosley. Showtime ain't never releases those numbers. Come on, man.

According to Dan Rafael, it had something to do with taxes...I don't know if that's true or not, but damn, seriously, why the hell is everyone so worried about numbers that have no impact on you...hell, it doesn't even impact the sport. The numbers from this PPV are not going to impact whether or not Pacquiao and Floyd fight. The only thing that makes that fight is the tests...and the only person standing in the way of that is Bob Arum.

An official announcement will come when they're ready to make it....which will probably be soon....and it will probably be around 1.25-1.3....with a few more numbers expected to trickle in. The final numbers will probably be adjusted and tallied 6 months after the fight....just like they were for De La Hoya-Mayweather.

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In all fairness I think numbers are a facet of PPV boxing that fans are interested in. I mean the initial estimate was interesting enough for you to run a story on your front page titled "Mayweather STILL the PPV king" or words to that effect.

For me and a lot of others I will be curious to see what the final figures are. I guess it is just a part of whole modern experience of being a fight fan. Who is the trainer? What is the result? What were the PPV figures? It's part of the package now.

[Cshel86]

Are you laughing or crying?

And why did you change the title of the thread?

Sigh...uh ohhh...heros are always the first to get sacrificed, smh...

[PalookaJoe]

In all fairness I think numbers are a facet of PPV boxing that fans are interested in. I mean the initial estimate was interesting enough for you to run a story on your front page titled "Mayweather STILL the PPV king" or words to that effect.

For me and a lot of others I will be curious to see what the final figures are. I guess it is just a part of whole modern experience of being a fight fan. Who is the trainer? What is the result? What were the PPV figures? It's part of the package now.

Also fighters base their marketability on PPV#'s so I think it's interesting to follow those numbers. That's how we base someone's popularity on. I mean the thing could have done 500K and it wouldn't matter at the end of the day. Floyd's still getting paid and he'll get paid for his next fight and the fight after that, and so on until he retires for good.

So in that sense the numbers don't really matter, it's just another aspect to the sport that we as fans follow, as you said.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Also fighters base their marketability on PPV#'s so I think it's interesting to follow those numbers. That's how we base someone's popularity on. I mean the thing could have done 500K and it wouldn't matter at the end of the day. Floyd's still getting paid and he'll get paid for his next fight and the fight after that, and so on until he retires for good.

So in that sense the numbers don't really matter, it's just another aspect to the sport that we as fans follow, as you said.

I might add BM that there are two things Floyd really hangs his hat on: his unbeaten record and his PPV numbers.

Sure FH has some pretty good access to him so you would have to give them the inside running on what the final figures are likely to be but at the same time anytime there are alternate numbers floated out there people are gonna bite and show some interest.

[thehype]

In all fairness I think numbers are a facet of PPV boxing that fans are interested in. I mean the initial estimate was interesting enough for you to run a story on your front page titled "Mayweather STILL the PPV king" or words to that effect.

For me and a lot of others I will be curious to see what the final figures are. I guess it is just a part of whole modern experience of being a fight fan. Who is the trainer? What is the result? What were the PPV figures? It's part of the package now.

I'm not saying fans can't be interested in them, but god damn, some of y'all are OBSESSED with them. That's all I'm getting at. I mean, how many fucking threads have been created about it already? We ran our story over a month ago, and since then, there's been all kinds of guesses, assumptions, inaccurate information, totally off numbers, conspiracy theories, you name it. It's fucking crazy. I mean, even this thread right here is sourcing a site that told you two weeks ago the number was 850K, and now all of a sudden, they're telling you it's 1.15 and that's taken as fact as though the site is credible. Even now, somebody else is saying 700K...all the while, it seems like people are just eager to say, "So much for FightHype this" and "Fight reporting inaccurate that". WTF? How about FightHype is the only place that stood firm on their initial number? How about FightHype is the only place reporting numbers similar to what Dan Rafael is hearing (give or take 50K)? How about, "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't that far off in the first place. I guess Mayweather can sell even when his opponent is new to the PPV scene. I wonder how much revenue that generated given that this PPV was more expensive than normal."

It's always negative, negative, NEGATIVE shit coming out of the mouths of some y'all. I mean, are we really fans of the sport? Or are we just bitter haters of certain fighters?

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[The Ollie Reed F...]

How about FightHype is the only place that stood firm on their initial number? How about FightHype is the only place reporting numbers similar to what Dan Rafael is hearing (give or take 50K)? How about, "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't that far off in the first place. I guess Mayweather can sell even when his opponent is new to the PPV scene. I wonder how much revenue that generated given that this PPV was more expensive than normal."

It's always negative, negative, NEGATIVE shit coming out of the mouths of some y'all. I mean, are we really fans of the sport? Or are we just bitter haters of certain fighters?

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Well I guess the people that have started threads doubting the numbers you reported will have to eat crow when the 'official' figures come out.

[Mean Mister Must...]

I'm not saying fans can't be interested in them, but god damn, some of y'all are OBSESSED with them. That's all I'm getting at. I mean, how many fucking threads have been created about it already? We ran our story over a month ago, and since then, there's been all kinds of guesses, assumptions, inaccurate information, totally off numbers, conspiracy theories, you name it. It's fucking crazy. I mean, even this thread right here is sourcing a site that told you two weeks ago the number was 850K, and now all of a sudden, they're telling you it's 1.15 and that's taken as fact as though the site is credible. Even now, somebody else is saying 700K...all the while, it seems like people are just eager to say, "So much for FightHype this" and "Fight reporting inaccurate that". WTF? How about FightHype is the only place that stood firm on their initial number? How about FightHype is the only place reporting numbers similar to what Dan Rafael is hearing (give or take 50K)? How about, "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't that far off in the first place. I guess Mayweather can sell even when his opponent is new to the PPV scene. I wonder how much revenue that generated given that this PPV was more expensive than normal."

It's always negative, negative, NEGATIVE shit coming out of the mouths of some y'all. I mean, are we really fans of the sport? Or are we just bitter haters of certain fighters?

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The finger should be pointed at the same poster who keeps making these threads and implicating FH over and over, not anyone else.

By the way, isn't the site that the OP posted the same site that had some 'writer' keep hating Pacquiao over and over before the Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito fights? Not cool man.

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[kingknockout]

seems like the boxing game is just like the rap game when it comes to sales...

alot of rap fans these days argue and debate over what artist is going to sell what number wise....plastic, gold or platinum.....seems like it's the same thing with boxing....who's selling the most PPV wise, pacman or mayweather..

but like other's have said, who cares.

[Xception2ThRule]

I'm not saying fans can't be interested in them, but god damn, some of y'all are OBSESSED with them. That's all I'm getting at. I mean, how many fucking threads have been created about it already? We ran our story over a month ago, and since then, there's been all kinds of guesses, assumptions, inaccurate information, totally off numbers, conspiracy theories, you name it. It's fucking crazy. I mean, even this thread right here is sourcing a site that told you two weeks ago the number was 850K, and now all of a sudden, they're telling you it's 1.15 and that's taken as fact as though the site is credible. Even now, somebody else is saying 700K...all the while, it seems like people are just eager to say, "So much for FightHype this" and "Fight reporting inaccurate that". WTF? How about FightHype is the only place that stood firm on their initial number? How about FightHype is the only place reporting numbers similar to what Dan Rafael is hearing (give or take 50K)? How about, "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't that far off in the first place. I guess Mayweather can sell even when his opponent is new to the PPV scene. I wonder how much revenue that generated given that this PPV was more expensive than normal."

It's always negative, negative, NEGATIVE shit coming out of the mouths of some y'all. I mean, are we really fans of the sport? Or are we just bitter haters of certain fighters?

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You jumped the gun with your article days after the fight stating a MINIMUM GUARANTEE of 1.3 Million PPV Buys. Now you are changing your tune and saying it is "somewhere around there" and "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't too far off in the first place???" LOL.

You diss "Fat Man Scoop" every time he is brought up, but now you are turning to him for credibility in a time of need. How convenient.

Just remember: you reported a MINIMUM of 1.3 Million PPV buys. If your "inside sources" are so credible and you are so sure, why are you changing your tune? Just admit that you made a mistake and you jumped the gun in order to proclaim your boy Floyd P4P King of PPV.

[Cshel86]

You jumped the gun with your article days after the fight stating a MINIMUM GUARANTEE of 1.3 Million PPV Buys. Now you are changing your tune and saying it is "somewhere around there" and "Damn, maybe FightHype wasn't too far off in the first place???" LOL.

You diss "Fat Man Scoop" every time he is brought up, but now you are turning to him for credibility in a time of need. How convenient.

Just remember: you reported a MINIMUM of 1.3 Million PPV buys. If your "inside sources" are so credible and you are so sure, why are you changing your tune? Just admit that you made a mistake and you jumped the gun in order to proclaim your boy Floyd P4P King of PPV.

Sigh...man you're worse than Deevel79, smh. I already see where this is going...