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> Chavez Jr. Might Have A New Trainer Upon Return
Gambit808
post Dec 24 2012, 10:24 AM
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Rumor has it Roach may be losing yet another fighter in Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. after a bad 2012 that seen all of his top fighters take L's on their record. It's being said that either Nacho Beristain or Robert Garcia are in the top running to replace Roach. If Rumor holds true, I think it be a good Match for either trainer to take over. I'd leen more toward seeing Nacho Train him because I feel it being a no nonsense better mesh between Legendary Trainer teaching Son Of A Legend on the come up.

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post Dec 24 2012, 10:30 AM
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He will transition seemlessly with Garcia but he would learn the most from Beristain. Lets face it. Beristain is an all time great. Garcias fighter are just punching bags with tons of heart.
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post Dec 24 2012, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ Dec 24 2012, 10:30 AM) *
He will transition seemlessly with Garcia but he would learn the most from Beristain. Lets face it. Beristain is an all time great. Garcias fighter are just punching bags with tons of heart.

I agree.

Nacho can tweek his mechanics better in terms of boxing, we all know Julio has a heart. Not to late for him to pick up some things at this point in his career.
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post Dec 24 2012, 02:21 PM
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Tho I think roach is overrated i don't think the trainer was the problem in this tandem. Nacho probably wouldn't have the patience at this age with julio. Garcia might, he already deals rios shit so I'm guessing he would be the better fit for him style wise too.
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post Dec 24 2012, 03:01 PM
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yeah freddie was not the problem in that relationship. he gave good advice in the corner. the problem was and always will be Julio. he needs to respect the sport and grow up.
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post Dec 24 2012, 03:27 PM
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doubt it'd make a difference, the kid tested positive for weed, he obviously wasn't taking it seriously.
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 24 2012, 03:27 PM) *
doubt it'd make a difference, the kid tested positive for weed, he obviously wasn't taking it seriously.

C'mon MG...aint nothin' wrong with the good ol' herbs! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Anyhow, I think Nacho would help him a bit more than Garcia. Garcia's fighters were pretty much established before they got to him, I think Mikey has been with him pretty much from jump.

I just see Nacho helping Julio let his hands go (effectively) against faster fighters. With all this in mind, I hope Julio's eye injury wasn't too serious. Injuries like that, take years off of your career.

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post Dec 24 2012, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (flazi @ Dec 24 2012, 03:01 PM) *
yeah freddie was not the problem in that relationship. he gave good advice in the corner. the problem was and always will be Julio. he needs to respect the sport and grow up.


this. totally agree.

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post Dec 24 2012, 09:44 PM
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...but c'mon now...Freddie Roach is the best trainer in the world, and the best in all boxing history. Give the guy a break. Sheesh...
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post Dec 24 2012, 11:49 PM
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i have a hunch chavez jr will largely fight the same regardless of trainers. imo he wins fights on the scale ...his chin and name are other big advantages that explain his career trajectory and record (and probably attitude, assuming the reports and tv shows are true).

in the scenario that i was wrong and that chavez jr became receptive to new and (ideally) helpful advice, I do think he'd be able to extend his career and remain a challenging opponent for most in the middleweight division. he eats so many punches though i really wonder how long he'll box for.

but it'd be very difficult for chavez jr to campaign anywhere higher where his weight advantage disappears. that is a situation where a trainer would be necessary but even then who knows?
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