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daprofessor
post Sep 13 2012, 03:04 PM
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skills
floyd
bhop
ward
jmm
cotto
dawson
donaire
martinez
pac

accomplishment
bhop
floyd
pac
jmm
ward
martinez
dawson
cotto
donaire






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post Sep 13 2012, 09:08 PM
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Floyd
Ward
Bhop
Jmm
Martinez
Pac
Dawson
Cotto
Donaire
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post Sep 14 2012, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 13 2012, 03:04 PM) *
skills
floyd
bhop
ward
jmm
cotto
dawson
donaire
martinez
pac

accomplishment
bhop
floyd
pac
jmm
ward
martinez
dawson
cotto
donaire


I like the list, I went back and forth between Floyd and Bernard as being #1.
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post Sep 14 2012, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 13 2012, 02:54 PM) *
floyd - do i really need to explain this? solid skills + PPV king, one of the GOATs
pac - skills not so amazing, but at the lower weight classes when he was younger he was a beast
jmm - very good technical fighter, made popular by his clashes with pac me thinks.
ward - solid fighter, still needs to do something to achieve greatness
bhop - solid middleweight run, solid fundamentals, never really took off in popularity
martinez - overrated some what, yet nobody will fight him, I think the chavez fight will make or break his name, thing is he'd never surpass bhop in this list
cotto - ive always been harsh on cotto and didn't think he was anything special and i still don't, i want to see a rematch with pac at 154 to see him get sat again.
dawson - sure he was weight drained but he took the fight, plus sure he beat bhop but he never needed to pick him up and drop him
donaire - very athletic but lacks D, kinda well known thanks to pac exposing filipino fighters to the world.

about it really


Cotto at 154, with no catch weight vs Manny? I think Manny will get beaten, it's a reason he don't want to fight Cotto over 150, but he didn't have that problem fighting Margarito at the weight. Like the shirts say "Manny knows"
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post Sep 14 2012, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 14 2012, 08:33 PM) *
Cotto at 154, with no catch weight vs Manny? I think Manny will get beaten, it's a reason he don't want to fight Cotto over 150, but he didn't have that problem fighting Margarito at the weight. Like the shirts say "Manny knows"


yeah pac at 154, or well cotto at 154 and pac comes in where ever between 150-154 am guessing
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post Sep 14 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 14 2012, 02:31 PM) *
I like the list, I went back and forth between Floyd and Bernard as being #1.


for skills...it definitely has to be floyd. he's never been down...never been beaten...and it's a rare occasion when he gets his nose busted.

for accomplishments...u can't argue bhops longevity...record title defenses....or his accomplishments past the age 40.
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post Sep 14 2012, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 14 2012, 02:33 PM) *
Cotto at 154, with no catch weight vs Manny? I think Manny will get beaten, it's a reason he don't want to fight Cotto over 150, but he didn't have that problem fighting Margarito at the weight. Like the shirts say "Manny knows"


exactly.
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post Sep 14 2012, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 14 2012, 03:35 PM) *
yeah pac at 154, or well cotto at 154 and pac comes in where ever between 150-154 am guessing


I think Manny has a chance if he could drain Cotto to 152 but Miguel is on his boss mode and I don't see them fighting again. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see the two of them fight again, but it has to be without a catch weight
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post Sep 14 2012, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 05:49 PM) *
for skills...it definitely has to be floyd. he's never been down...never been beaten...and it's a rare occasion when he gets his nose busted.

for accomplishments...u can't argue bhops longevity...record title defenses....or his accomplishments past the age 40.


I agree with that
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post Sep 17 2012, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 14 2012, 09:23 PM) *
I think Manny has a chance if he could drain Cotto to 152 but Miguel is on his boss mode and I don't see them fighting again. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see the two of them fight again, but it has to be without a catch weight


same here.

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