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May 24 2010, 06:03 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,082 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Cali Member No.: 1,319 |
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May 24 2010, 08:12 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 24-October 07 From: I'm at where I'm at. Member No.: 6,400 |
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May 24 2010, 08:44 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 11-April 10 Member No.: 10,849 |
Fitz, this game is so complex that people have no way of not ruining it.
Asking just one question will require some sort of a tree-like answer... with branches denoting fights and outcomes. Hagler winning may have one significant consequence but some fights whose outcomes are changed... we're looking at another dimension here. |
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May 24 2010, 08:49 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 11-April 10 Member No.: 10,849 |
Hard to say, I imagine the fight wouldn't have been much different, probably just another close one. I personally don't think too much would have changed for that fight and after that fight. What if Pacquiao vs DLH never happened? Where would Pacquiao be now? Would he have moved onto 147, or would he still be at around 135-140? I agree with the first statement. Same outcome for the third fight. If Pac vs DLH never happened, then Floyd wouldn't have demanded any blood tests and is now in retirement again because he got KTFOed. |
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May 24 2010, 08:50 PM
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Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,558 Joined: 15-November 09 From: The northleft edge of the continental USA Member No.: 10,633 |
Hard to say, I imagine the fight wouldn't have been much different, probably just another close one. I personally don't think too much would have changed for that fight and after that fight. What if Pacquiao vs DLH never happened? Where would Pacquiao be now? Would he have moved onto 147, or would he still be at around 135-140? Pac would be fighting at 140, where he belongs, and the division would rule boxing. What if Ali had fought Ellis and Mathis before taking on Smokin' Joe? |
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May 24 2010, 08:52 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 11-April 10 Member No.: 10,849 |
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May 24 2010, 08:53 PM
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Chief Haterizer Group: Team BU Posts: 10,592 Joined: 30-May 04 From: Sydney Member No.: 91 |
It would have made no difference whatsoever to the beating Joe dished out. Unless you think Mathis & Ellis resemble Frazier in any way shape or form.
What if Ali vs Frazier had a competant referee who did not allow Ali to initiate 200+ clinches in their second fight? |
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May 24 2010, 09:03 PM
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Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,558 Joined: 15-November 09 From: The northleft edge of the continental USA Member No.: 10,633 |
It would have made no difference whatsoever to the beating Joe dished out. Unless you think Mathis & Ellis resemble Frazier in any way shape or form. What if Ali vs Frazier had a competant referee who did not allow Ali to initiate 200+ clinches in their second fight? First of all, if Ali would have fought Ellis and Mathis first, Frazier would have probably made the mistake of facing Foreman and that would have been the end of it. If not, Ali would have had four fights and considerably more rounds under his belt before getting in the ring with Frazier. It would have made the difference in a decision. Using the prevalent thinking by you and most on this thread, a different referee wouldn't have changed a motherfuckin' thing. This post has been edited by SmartyBeardo: May 24 2010, 09:04 PM |
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May 24 2010, 09:12 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
First of all, if Ali would have fought Ellis and Mathis first, Frazier would have probably made the mistake of facing Foreman and that would have been the end of it. If not, Ali would have had four fights and considerably more rounds under his belt before getting in the ring with Frazier. It would have made the difference in a decision. Using the prevalent thinking by you and most on this thread, a different referee wouldn't have changed a motherfuckin' thing. Don't argue with him... he HATES Ali. His opinion on Ali means jack shit. |
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May 24 2010, 09:22 PM
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Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,558 Joined: 15-November 09 From: The northleft edge of the continental USA Member No.: 10,633 |
What if ROY JONES would of RETIRED after winning the HeavyWeight Title?? He would have one loss with an *. He would be remembered as one of the very greatest boxers of all time by most and a GOAT by many, while some haters would claim he never really fought anyone. What if Rocky Marciano had not retired? |
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