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> CARL FROCH says he passed Calzaghe's legacy, Do you agree??
BrutUalBK
post Apr 4 2013, 06:35 PM
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Carl Froch Claims His Legacy Has Surpassed Calzaghe's

IBF Super-Middleweight champion Carl Froch has taken a new swipe at boxing great Joe Calzaghe via the Daily Star by claiming his legacy has already surpassed that of the Welsh greats. Froch has taken digs at Calzaghe for years now which the future hall of famer has laughed off.

"I don’t like to talk Joe Calzaghe down but when you look at his career and the people he has beaten who are unbeaten, then I’ve fought more unbeaten fighters than Joe Calzaghe, more than anyone in Britain as world champion. I’m taking unbeaten people’s scalps and fighting at a higher level. Calzaghe has two or three names which stand out on his record. I’ve got ten or 12," said Froch.

Froch and Calzaghe have both beaten 5 unbeaten fighters each.

"As far as I’m concerned, my legacy has already superceded Joe Calzaghe’s – and I’ve got to say the great, phenomenal Joe Calzaghe, who retired unbeaten. People will say, ‘Yes, but he beat Mikkel Kessler’. I can answer that but I’m not going to, because it will look bitter. To beat Kessler, would that silence the critics? You’ll never, ever silence the critics. Floyd Mayweather Jnr gets stick and he’s the unbeaten pound-for-pound best. So if you think me beating Kessler is going to stop the critics, no fucking chance. An atom bomb won’t stop the critics. I’ve improved, I’ve fought at a better level, so I’m in a better position in terms of a re-match than he is," continued Froch.

The Froch and Calzaghe debate has raged on for years with the majority of people in favour of the Welshman. Joe Calzaghe retired unbeaten as one of the very best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport while being rated number 1 in the world at both Super-Middleweight and Light-Heavyweight. Carl Froch has of course never been rated number 1 in the world at any weight and has a loss against Calzaghe victim, Mikkel Kessler, which he will be looking to avenge on May 25th at London's O2 Arena infront of a sold out crowd.


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post Apr 4 2013, 06:45 PM
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froch is full of himself. he lost to a watered down version of kessler. he got a gift decision over dirrell. he went life and death with taylor. joe cal is definitely a class above froch. carl will never admit that.
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post Apr 4 2013, 06:51 PM
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meh what did joe cal do?
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post Apr 4 2013, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 4 2013, 06:51 PM) *
meh what did joe cal do?


Beat an over the hill Eubank, got a gift decision vs BHop and fought a way past it RJJ and beat an highly overrated Lacy.
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post Apr 4 2013, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 4 2013, 07:51 PM) *
meh what did joe cal do?


42 tried....and 42 failed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

actually...i thought the dude did a great job of hiding behind his promoter for many years. i picked him to beat bhop and rjj. i was shocked at how easy he beat left hook lacy...but to be honest...i was never impressed with lacy. i had never seen kessler before he beat him so i didn't really feel impressed by that victory either. kessler looked very limited in his abilities in that loss. the manfredo fight was laughable. with all of this being said....i think joe cal beats a guy like froch very easily.
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post Apr 4 2013, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 5 2013, 12:56 AM) *
42 tried....and 42 failed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

actually...i thought the dude did a great job of hiding behind his promoter for many years. i picked him to beat bhop and rjj. i was shocked at how easy he beat left hook lacy...but to be honest...i was never impressed with lacy. i had never seen kessler before he beat him so i didn't really feel impressed by that victory either. kessler looked very limited in his abilities in that loss. the manfredo fight was laughable. with all of this being said....i think joe cal beats a guy like froch very easily.


I don't think he does tbh
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post Apr 4 2013, 07:52 PM
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Nope, absolutely not. Froch's resume still needs some tuning.

As long as RJJ and Hopkins's name is on Joe's resume, Froch will always have some heavy lifting to do. The fact that Hopkins is still doing what he does at this advanced age, still gives life to Joe's resume, compared to Froch's.
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post Apr 4 2013, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 4 2013, 07:52 PM) *
Nope, absolutely not. Froch's resume still needs some tuning.

As long as RJJ and Hopkins's name is on Joe's resume, Froch will always have some heavy lifting to do. The fact that Hopkins is still doing what he does at this advanced age, still gives life to Joe's resume, compared to Froch's.



Agreed! Froch has beaten more B level fighters and lost to his two A-lister's (Ward and Kessler) whereas JC has gotten the W over 3 of his A-lister's (Hops, RJJ and Eubank).
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post Apr 4 2013, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 4 2013, 09:05 PM) *
Agreed! Froch has beaten more B level fighters and lost to his two A-lister's (Ward and Kessler) whereas JC has gotten the W over 3 of his A-lister's (Hops, RJJ and Eubank).

Agreed. Regardless of the fact that he lost the Hopkins fight (by 1 point in my book), on paper, he still "won". Who in the hell can Froch actually fight, to get the recognition that he thinks he has? Could he possibly take a shot a B-Hop, and...stop him? Would that put him in the same talks as Joe, in regards to resumes?
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post Apr 4 2013, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 4 2013, 09:12 PM) *
Agreed. Regardless of the fact that he lost the Hopkins fight (by 1 point in my book), on paper, he still "won". Who in the hell can Froch actually fight, to get the recognition that he thinks he has? Could he possibly take a shot a B-Hop, and...stop him? Would that put him in the same talks as Joe, in regards to resumes?


If Froch could stop B-Hop i dont think that would change anything. Its a dmaned if i do dmaned if i dont situaiton for Froch because B-Hop is pushing 50. Hes supposed to win. Hes supposed to knock him out. B-hop is a special case yes.. but at the end of the day hes a 48 year old BOXER. Calzaghe got a gift over B-Hop maybe. But the fact that B-Hop at 48 would probably still give Froch the same type of competitive fight that he gave to Calzaghe puts Froch at a disadvantage in terms of the Calzaghe comparisons.

Secondly ... i dare Froch to move up to 175. I dare him to fight a 100% healthy Andre Ward. I dare him to fight Dirrell in the US. Lets not forget that Ward beat this guy with one hand. Also Dirrell out classed this guy. Had Dirrelll gotten a fair shake we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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