[kidbazooka1]

Look at the notable guys he beat

Dan Henderson - Jake Shields mounted him for 4 rounds and gave him a whooping.

Nate Marquardt - Chael Sonnen beat him up

Rich Franklin - Vitor Belfort gave him just as much of a beating as Silva did

Damian Maia - knocked out in like 10 seconds by Nate the Great, and Silva couldn't finish him in 5 rounds!

Patrick Cote - gets hit a lot, easy fight for Silva

Forrest Griffin - Rashad Evans KOd him

Thales Leites - sucks haha and Silva couldn't finish him

James Irvin - got KOd by Sakara

Travis Lutter - been finished by Franklin, Lindland, Rivera

Chris Leben - had just lost to Rosholt and Bisbing

Bro i could do the same with the list of fighters you mentioned under Fedor, BJ and Couture so that to me means nothing whatsoever.

herer you go.....

Matt Serra-a b level fighter at best

Caol UNo-give me a break the guy gets beat within seconds then comes back and draws with BJ

Joe Stevenson-has never amounted to nothing

Diego SAnchez-jus got whooped by that new kid from England

Pulver-Bj lost to him back in there primes then he beat a past his prime Pulver

Renzo-old ass Renzop gracie even at that time he was already past his best

Kenny Florian-give me a break another TV hyped reality fighter

Adrei Arlovski-who hasn't won a fight in god knows how long and get KTFO everytime he steps up.

Tim Sylvia-who got annihalted by Old ass Ray Mercer within seconds.

Kevin randleman-a one rd fighter and nothing else

Heat Herring-a journey men who losses almost as much as he wins

Goodrich-Gary was never nothing special even in the early UFC days

Lindland-a natural MW fighting a HW now that was a joke

Coleman-again an ancient coleman some 8 yrs past his prime

You see bro i could do the same with almots every fighter and counter some comments you made as you might be able to do aswell but it's just dumb and again your the one sounding very stupid right now.


Yu guys might not consider Silva the GOAT but myself and many MMA writers do.

I can give creditto Sonnen and say he put up a helluva fight and did much better than i ever expected but he still lost and like he himself said Silva was and still is KING.

Silva has fought the best and beaten them he is undefeated in the UFC which in it's self is a great feat already given the level of comp the UFC has over the other organizations and he has provne himself time and time again.


There is no fighter going today who i can rank ahead of him. Though i will say that I think Jose Aldo will do big things in the future and might one day rival Anderson accomplishments but ofcourse it's much too soon to even go there right now.

This post has been edited by kidbazooka1: Aug 8 2010, 08:50 PM

[Warlord]

Yu guys might not consider Silva the GOAT but myself and many MMA writers do.

Find one credible MMA writer who is on record proclaiming Anderson Silva as the greatest fighter of all time.

I can give credit to Sonnen and say he put up a helluva fight and did much better than i ever expected but he still lost and like he himself said Silva was and still is KING.

How many KINGS get down on their hands and knees and BOW DOWN to another? Because that's what Anderson Silva did. Literally. Put his belt down, dropped to his knees and bowed down at the feet of Chael Sonnen. You guys can sit here all day everyday claiming Silva is the goat, and pretend that getting DOMINATED for 4 and a half rounds was all part of Silva's master-plan, but it doesn't change facts.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Anderson Silva is a product of the UFC hype machine. Period. He got dominated by a second-rate wrestler. What will he do against Vitor Belfort? Or Jake Shields? Could he even beat a blown-up welterweight like GSP? Anderson Silva is light years from being worthy of mention alongside greats like Fedor.

Silva has fought the best and beaten them

He has? Where was I when this happened?

He won't fight Shogun, he won't fight Machida, he won't fight Rogerio Nogueira. WTF? You claimed you wanted the belt at 205 and now you see Shogun rightfully wearing the strap and you can't get the fuck out of Dodge fast enough? That ain't GOAT material to me.

There is no fighter going today who i can rank ahead of him.

That's okay. There's a ton of fighters I, and plenty of others, would rank ahead of him.

[Box in Hand]

When Lesner got owned in the first round of his last fight and came back to win people were claiming he is the baddest man ever. Enter the Silva vs Sonnen fight and it's a different tune. Silva stayed composed and pulled out a victory. He has beaten everyone put in front of him thus far in the UFC and that makes him worthy of respect.

[Warlord]

When Lesner got owned in the first round of his last fight and came back to win people were claiming he is the baddest man ever. Enter the Silva vs Sonnen fight and it's a different tune. Silva stayed composed and pulled out a victory. He has beaten everyone put in front of him thus far in the UFC and that makes him worthy of respect.

Dude, no one is saying he isn't worthy of respect. Some of us just refuse to blindly accept the UFC hype machine's notion that Anderson Silva is somehow the greatest fighter that ever lived. He isn't.

[kidbazooka1]

Find one credible MMA writer who is on record proclaiming Anderson Silva as the greatest fighter of all time.


How many KINGS get down on their hands and knees and BOW DOWN to another? Because that's what Anderson Silva did. Literally. Put his belt down, dropped to his knees and bowed down at the feet of Chael Sonnen. You guys can sit here all day everyday claiming Silva is the goat, and pretend that getting DOMINATED for 4 and a half rounds was all part of Silva's master-plan, but it doesn't change facts.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Anderson Silva is a product of the UFC hype machine. Period. He got dominated by a second-rate wrestler. What will he do against Vitor Belfort? Or Jake Shields? Could he even beat a blown-up welterweight like GSP? Anderson Silva is light years from being worthy of mention alongside greats like Fedor.


He won't fight Shogun, he won't fight Machida, he won't fight Rogerio Nogueira. WTF? You claimed you wanted the belt at 205 and now you see Shogun rightfully wearing the strap and you can't get the fuck out of Dodge fast enough? That ain't GOAT material to me.

C'mon War don't make it seem like Shogun has been calling out for Anderson every opportunity given he has stated that he would fight Anderson and Anderson has also stated that he would fight Shogun. As for MAchida they are friends War you should know that they won't fight each othe plaine nad simple.

Also Shogun has stated in Fighers Only magazine that whne they were all in chutebox together and this includes Wanderlie that Anderson always had more talent than the rest including himself and that he admired Silva aswell but they were neever the best of freinds and he would fight him if the UFC wanted.

Now your mentioning Vitor and Shileds give me a f*cking break War don't let the hate make you say stupid sh*t bro. Vitor and Shields can't beat Anderson. Shields ain't got Sonnens wrestling ability and Vitor would get worked on the feet. Lets keep it real man don't get carried away with this sh*t. Anderson has fought everyone the UFC has put in fron of him incuding beating the sh*t out of a guy who submitted Shogun.

Fedor hasn't fought a top HW in yrs and was highly criticised for that and when the UFC tried to sign him so he can challlenge the best he priced himself out and got trinagled by Werdum of all people.

The bowing down sh*t was all out of respect because Sonnen put up a helluva fight and Silva is all inot that bowing sh*t anyway so thats just what he does so f*Cking what he still subbed his ass at the end of the day.

War I tell you what if and when Anderson fights Shogun i will make any kinda of bet you want that Anderosn will put it on his ass and take the 205lb belt by TKO or sub and i say that becuase unlike Sonnen who just came to hold you down and throw pitty pat punches most of the time Shogun will actually come and fight and by doing so he'll get crushed brutaly..

This post has been edited by kidbazooka1: Aug 9 2010, 01:07 AM

[Warlord]

C'mon War don't make it seem like Shogun has been calling out for Anderson every opportunity given he has stated that he would fight Anderson and Anderson has also stated that he would fight Shogun. As for MAchida they are friends War you should know that they won't fight each othe plaine nad simple.

Everyone else fights friends. Fighters fight, man, it's what they do. It's just funny to me Anderson's friends are all top guys that could give him a go.

Now your mentioning Vitor and Shileds give me a f*cking break War don't let the hate make you say stupid sh*t bro. Vitor and Shields can't beat Anderson. Shields ain't got Sonnens wrestling ability and Vitor would get worked on the feet.

Anderson nearly got stopped in the 1st round by Chael fucking Sonnen, bro. Don't tell me Vitor would get worked if he stands with Anderson. Vitor has got some of the heaviest hands in the sport. He always has. It's not etched in stone that Silva outstrikes Vitor before getting caught with something big. And Vitor has the superior ground game as well.

As for Shields, are you serious? I have no love for Shields, but the kid's got a wicked ground game. He's a better fighter than Sonnen, and he won't get triangled late in a fight the way Sonnen perpetually does.

You don't want me to say dumb shit, well, I don't want you saying it either bro. Anderson Silva got pounded for 4 and a half rounds by Chael fucking Sonnen. You've got no legs to stand on when you immediately try to dismiss a fighter like Vitor Belfort, or Jake Shields.

Fedor hasn't fought a top HW in yrs

1.) He most certainly has.
2.) Fedor has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

The bowing down sh*t was all out of respect because Sonnen put up a helluva fight and Silva is all inot that bowing sh*t anyway so thats just what he does so f*Cking what he still subbed his ass at the end of the day.

How many other opponents did Silva bow down to?

War I tell you what if and when Anderson fights Shogun i will make any kinda of bet you want that Anderosn will put it on his ass and take the 205lb belt by TKO or sub .

This fight will never happen. Silva was all about fighting at 205 till he saw his girlfriend get wrecked twice by Shogun. Now suddenly he says he don't want the belt anymore. Why not motherfucker? What were you doing even fighting at 205 if you weren't looking at the title?

Let me ask you something dude, and please, just answer me honestly because I'm going somewhere with this. If Anderson Silva had lost to Chael Sonnen, would you really be on here today arguing the position that he is the greatest fighter that ever lived?

[kidbazooka1]

Everyone else fights friends. Fighters fight, man, it's what they do. It's just funny to me Anderson's friends are all top guys that could give him a go.


Anderson nearly got stopped in the 1st round by Chael fucking Sonnen, bro. Don't tell me Vitor would get worked if he stands with Anderson. Vitor has got some of the heaviest hands in the sport. He always has. It's not etched in stone that Silva outstrikes Vitor before getting caught with something big. And Vitor has the superior ground game as well.

As for Shields, are you serious? I have no love for Shields, but the kid's got a wicked ground game. He's a better fighter than Sonnen, and he won't get triangled late in a fight the way Sonnen perpetually does.

You don't want me to say dumb shit, well, I don't want you saying it either bro. Anderson Silva got pounded for 4 and a half rounds by Chael fucking Sonnen. You've got no legs to stand on when you immediately try to dismiss a fighter like Vitor Belfort, or Jake Shields.


1.) He most certainly has.
2.) Fedor has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.



How many other opponents did Silva bow down to?


This fight will never happen. Silva was all about fighting at 205 till he saw his girlfriend get wrecked twice by Shogun. Now suddenly he says he don't want the belt anymore. Why not motherfucker? What were you doing even fighting at 205 if you weren't looking at the title?

Let me ask you something dude, and please, just answer me honestly because I'm going somewhere with this. If Anderson Silva had lost to Chael Sonnen, would you really be on here today arguing the position that he is the greatest fighter that ever lived?

Had Anderson lost yes i would still say he will go down as the GOAT but the bottom line is he didn't and thats all that matters. Many great fighters go through sh*t like this and always find a way to win just like Silva did.

Hell yeah i gotta dismiss Shields he almost got KTFO by a 40 yr old Henderson what do you think Anderson would do to him.

Sonnen landed a lucky punch that caught Anderson cold in the first rd thats why Anderson let him hit him right after that like 4-5 times on purpose to show him he couldn't hurt him. Anderson landed that beautiful standing elbow that dropped Sonnen in the 4th and almost had him out.

As for Vitor i actually like him he is the one who got me into MMA back in 97' with UFC 112 but ever since losing to Couture he had never been the same. Vitor always had the skills to become one of the great ones but mentally he was weak that has awlays been his down fall. You can't be a weak minded fighter going in with Anderson poor Vitor would be beat before the first bell even rings.

[Warlord]

Had Anderson lost yes i would still say he will go down as the GOAT but the bottom line is he didn't and thats all that matters. Many great fighters go through sh*t like this and always find a way to win just like Silva did.

No, many great fighters don't go through shit like that. It's one thing to get caught with a fluke punch. It's another to get caught in a quick submission. But no, not every great fighter consistently gets dominated b sub-par competition the way Anderson Silva does. It's a recurring theme in his career. He struggles with guys that he should, by all rights, be finishing in the 1st round.

Hell yeah i gotta dismiss Shields he almost got KTFO by a 40 yr old Henderson

Then I gotta dismiss Anderson. At least Henderson is NOTORIOUS for that ungodly right hand of his. Anderson nearly got KTFO by a one-dimensional wrestler who never, at any previous point in his career, displayed even a modicum of striking talent.

What do you think Anderson would do to him.

Try to Homer Simpson his way through 4 and a half rounds of pure domination and hope he can pull another submission out of his ass?

Sonnen landed a lucky punch that caught Anderson cold in the first rd

See, that's just shit. Chael threw a punch and he connected. How the fuck was that luck?

Thats why Anderson let him hit him right after that like 4-5 times on purpose to show him he couldn't hurt him.

...After Sonnen had already hurt him. Gotcha. Brilliant.

Anderson landed that beautiful standing elbow that dropped Sonnen in the 4th and almost had him out.

I'm sure that was just a lucky elbow on Anderson's part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif)

As for Vitor i actually like him he is the one who got me into MMA back in 97' with UFC 112 but ever since losing to Couture he had never been the same. Vitor always had the skills to become one of the great ones but mentally he was weak that has awlays been his down fall. You can't be a weak minded fighter going in with Anderson poor Vitor would be beat before the first bell even rings.

Vitor is mentally weak, I totally agree with you there. So is Anderson. Guess they belong in the octagon together after all.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Bazooka said: Thats why Anderson let him hit him right after that like 4-5 times on purpose to show him he couldn't hurt him.

To which Warlord said: ...After Sonnen had already hurt him. Gotcha. Brilliant.

Lmfao canidate for the greatest OWNED post off all time.

Kid Bazooka has no idea how dumb he sounds.

He can continue to scratch at the door, but all of his barking still isnt going to make Silva the GOAT.

Case Closed

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Aug 9 2010, 03:41 AM

[AussieLad]

A great can have losses on his resume and still be great. Some people take time to reach their full potential, and i think previous losses can be set aside when examining the fighter they eventually evolve into. Its the fighter at the pinnacle of his game when people talk prime vs prime, not the dude still mid evolution. Of course those losses get factored into an all time standing equation, but when your examining prime vs prime, peak vs peak, the losses dont mean a thing if a guy has evolved into a different beast, an animal that can overcome situations where they would have at one time fallen

I think this can be applied to both Sonnen and Silva. Sonnen was at his peak. It was no fluke. He was peaking vs Marquardt as well, and Nate is no push over. Until the beat down at the hands of sonnen he was a clear 2nd in the division, and Chael owned his ass. Chael owned Silva, a clear 4 rounds to zip. And then he got caught... shit happens. Credit to Silva for pulling the sub out of his ass, but it was fucking lucky. He wasnt letting tension build for dramatic purposes before pulling the switch. He was getting his ass handed to him.