[The Original MrF...]

Wow the insane nuthugging continues. PW is not P4P & to be honest is not even close. Sure he cracks the top 10 but he has a long long way to go before he gets within spitting distance of Pacman.

If by some freak of nature PW & Pac squared off in a P4P sense (not a BS fight at 147) I would take Pac all day & twice on a Sunday over PW.

Please tell us how that one would go... LOL!!!

[King Eugene]

Please tell us how that one would go... LOL!!!

I'm anxious to hear this myself.

[D-MARV]

Pac would get spanked from Ring Post to Ring Post.

This post has been edited by damarvelous1: Apr 16 2009, 06:17 AM

[buford54]

Wow the insane nuthugging continues. PW is not P4P & to be honest is not even close. Sure he cracks the top 10 but he has a long long way to go before he gets within spitting distance of Pacman.

If by some freak of nature PW & Pac squared off in a P4P sense (not a BS fight at 147) I would take Pac all day & twice on a Sunday over PW.

How do they sqare off in a P4P sense? If Pac was 6'3", weighed 147 and had an 82 inch reach, I'd pick him too.
All boxers use the gifts they have to their advantage.
Floyd is fast, quick, and extremely smart. Kind of the total package.
Hopkins is extremely smart, crafty and deceptive. He doesn't have the physical gifts of Floyd, but mentally he makes up for it.
Pacman is fast, powerful and has great conditioning. His gifts are more physical than mental.
Williams has a physical advantage over any man who gets in the ring. That's why he is a problem for anyone who gets in the ring with him.
Don't hate him because he is using his natural advantages. At least he makes exciting fights (unlike Lennox Lewis who usually had a size advantage and used it to be as boring as possible). PW even throws some of his advantages to the wind to fight inside sometimes.

As of now, PW is top 10, but I would be curious as to how Pacman would beat him.

[Big Slim Sweet]

Obviously it's a little premature to call Paul Williams the p4p king if you're talking about what he's actually accomplished thus far to date. But I don't think it's so far-fetched to believe he could be the p4p king in waiting, or that he is in fact the p4p best fighter right now and just needs a few more higher profile fights to show it.

I'm sorry, but if you're not impressed by what Williams has been doing lately you haven't been watching closely enough.

For now I'd put him in the lower half of the top 10, but with a bullet.

[D-MARV]

Obviously it's a little premature to call Paul Williams the p4p king if you're talking about what he's actually accomplished thus far to date. But I don't think it's so far-fetched to believe he could be the p4p king in waiting, or that he is in fact the p4p best fighter right now and just needs a few more higher profile fights to show it.

I'm sorry, but if you're not impressed by what Williams has been doing lately you haven't been watching closely enough.

For now I'd put him in the lower half of the top 10, but with a bullet.

Great Post!

[Lil-lightsout]

Obviously it's a little premature to call Paul Williams the p4p king if you're talking about what he's actually accomplished thus far to date. But I don't think it's so far-fetched to believe he could be the p4p king in waiting, or that he is in fact the p4p best fighter right now and just needs a few more higher profile fights to show it.

I'm sorry, but if you're not impressed by what Williams has been doing lately you haven't been watching closely enough.

For now I'd put him in the lower half of the top 10, but with a bullet.

I agree with this. His next step is fighting a Pavlik, Abraham, or Sturm at Middleweight.

Or- Forrest or Dzinziruk at Jr. Middleweight.

Or- Mosley, Cotto-Clottey winner, Berto, Collazo, Mayweather at Welterweight.

No doubt this guy believes in himself and would not shy away from anyone around his numerous weight classes. Lets just see one or some of these fights to see where PW TRULY belongs in P4P ratings.

To me there are more deserving fighters that have earned there right to be in the top five P4P by fighting better opposition, I would put Paul more near the ten spot. Heck, I think there are a few fighters that could be in the top 10, but they need to fight other champions to see if they really are P4P material.

[STEVENSKI]

Please tell us how that one would go... LOL!!!

Using a crazy P4P formula you would take the fighters at their best weight throw them in a blender & see what happens.

So if you took a 154 range PW with all his advantages & used the Pac at 126-130 the size difference whilst there would not be as dramatic.

I think that Pac would slide in & out using angles beating PW to the punch. Don't get me wrong I was never a fan of PW but he is a talented fighter with fantastic output but in a P4P fighting sense Pac has the much much much higher quality & more highly skilled & varied competition he has beaten so I would take him to beat PW P4P.

If the "magically" fought at 145 up (I feel sick even typing this as it may well come true) then PW would smash Manny from Vegas to Manilla.

I am only saying based on the quality of his wins there is no real basis for even considering him to be in the upper echelon of the P4P scene he is somewhere between 6-12. He may well be Mr P4P in waiting & all that but he aint P4P yet.

This post has been edited by STEVENSKI: Apr 16 2009, 10:06 PM

[Lil-lightsout]

If the "magically" fought at 145 up (I feel sick even typing this as it may well come true) then PW would smash Manny from Vegas to Manilla.

I do not know about that, I just do not think it would be that easy NOW for Paul to make 145 or 147 for that matter. If he would make the ww limit, I am absolutely 100% sure that he would not be as effective as he was Saturday against Winky. I would bet money his performance would suffer for sucking that extra weight now that he is fighting middleweight. Paul and his camp talk a good game about dropping back down, but until they do, it is just talk. Call me a hater or whatever you like, but I would not favor him over Mayweather,Cotto or Mosley. They have fought way better competion, and maybe they would be the ones to have a gameplan to nullify PW offense. Not saying he could not win either, cause he could, but I think all three of those fighters have great pedigree's that bring many tools to the table that should not be overlooked.

[STEVENSKI]

That is why I said 145 & up.

What is really sick is that if Pac beats Hatton & PBF does not show up then there will be some who will think it is a great idea to make PW vs Pac.