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Jan 24 2011, 03:56 AM
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Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 22-August 03 Member No.: 603 |
If mayorga had been active, i would agree that he has a chance. But the long layoff means BEAT DOWN BABY
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Jan 24 2011, 08:24 AM
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Super Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 9-December 04 Member No.: 1,307 |
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Jan 24 2011, 07:37 PM
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ON the edge Group: Members Posts: 9,331 Joined: 28-February 03 From: Poughkeepsie, NY Member No.: 240 |
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Jan 24 2011, 08:05 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
I agree, and with Cotto taking those beatings in recent years he's going to feel those thudding shots from Mayorga. this is what im thinking as well... that and if cotto allows mayorga to find any kind of rhythm in the fight it will be a long night win or lose for the guy... im just shocked so many people think this is a walk in the park for cotto.. i just dont see it... |
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Jan 24 2011, 08:24 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 3,702 Joined: 27-April 08 From: NZ Member No.: 7,287 |
this is what im thinking as well... that and if cotto allows mayorga to find any kind of rhythm in the fight it will be a long night win or lose for the guy... im just shocked so many people think this is a walk in the park for cotto.. i just dont see it... Me too. Unless you have the one punch power to stop Mayo in his tracks he is a long nights work for anyone. Funny I've seen him stopped in his tracks by Oscar and Tito and KO'ed in the very last second of his fight with Shane but I've never really seen him comprehensively outboxed over 12 rounds (and please nobody mention Spinks, Mayorga won that fight). Fact is if you want to beat Mayorga you have to stop him. Does Cotto carry that kind of power at 154? I'm not sure. And in order to KO Mayorga he will have to step into the kill zone which means he gets a shot in return., whith a power Cotto hasn't tasted before. These are reasons I like Mayorga as a live underdog. |
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Jan 24 2011, 08:50 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
Me too. Unless you have the one punch power to stop Mayo in his tracks he is a long nights work for anyone. Funny I've seen him stopped in his tracks by Oscar and Tito and KO'ed in the very last second of his fight with Shane but I've never really seen him comprehensively outboxed over 12 rounds (and please nobody mention Spinks, Mayorga won that fight). Fact is if you want to beat Mayorga you have to stop him. Does Cotto carry that kind of power at 154? I'm not sure. And in order to KO Mayorga he will have to step into the kill zone which means he gets a shot in return., whith a power Cotto hasn't tasted before. These are reasons I like Mayorga as a live underdog. he's a very live dog... cotto is very much damaged goods and mayorga has nothing to lose in the fight... im sure he's gonna to knock cottos block off.. then add to that mayorga is naturally a bigger fighter... i thinking trouble for cotto again win or lose... |
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Jan 24 2011, 08:54 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,498 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,970 |
this is what im thinking as well... that and if cotto allows mayorga to find any kind of rhythm in the fight it will be a long night win or lose for the guy... im just shocked so many people think this is a walk in the park for cotto.. i just dont see it... it depends on how you think about it. if you think about it in the business sense you think Arum doesn't want to risk someone that can still sell out an arena in NY, generate interest in a fight, and can either take on Margarito or Pac in the future. What does Arum get out of Mayorga winning? Jack shit. If anything I think King and Mayorga are just getting some money out of this. Are you guys going to risk a guy that can put asses in the seats of any NY venue and still has a fan base for nothing? Match up wise I think Mayorga is gonna have some real ring rust and Cotto's jab is gonna pay dividends. In about the past 3 years Mayorga has only been floored by Mosley and beat a bum that got stopped his last 2 fights, win or lose Cotto has been in the ring with the best his divisions have had to offer and still has a some left in the tank. |
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Jan 24 2011, 09:00 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 3,702 Joined: 27-April 08 From: NZ Member No.: 7,287 |
it depends on how you think about it. if you think about it in the business sense you think Arum doesn't want to risk someone that can still sell out an arena in NY, generate interest in a fight, and can either take on Margarito or Pac in the future. What does Arum get out of Mayorga winning? Jack shit. If anything I think King and Mayorga are just getting some money out of this. Are you guys going to risk a guy that can put asses in the seats of any NY venue and still has a fan base for nothing? Match up wise I think Mayorga is gonna have some real ring rust and Cotto's jab is gonna pay dividends. In about the past 3 years Mayorga has only been floored by Mosley and beat a bum that got stopped his last 2 fights, win or lose Cotto has been in the ring with the best his divisions have had to offer and still has a some left in the tank. We've seen Arum risk Cotto before, even to GoldenBoy with the Mosley fight. I'm not sure he didn't want him to lose to Foreman. The bolded part is what we are debating. I'm not so sure he does have anything left in the tank. With this fight I get the feeling we'll find out. |
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Jan 24 2011, 09:31 PM
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ON the edge Group: Members Posts: 9,331 Joined: 28-February 03 From: Poughkeepsie, NY Member No.: 240 |
We've seen Arum risk Cotto before, even to GoldenBoy with the Mosley fight. I'm not sure he didn't want him to lose to Foreman. The bolded part is what we are debating. I'm not so sure he does have anything left in the tank. With this fight I get the feeling we'll find out. I think it's kind of a no-win situation for Cotto here, because regardless of the outcome of the fight he's going to be in yet ANOTHER tough fight. Between Clottey, Mosley, Margarito and Pacquiao the guy was in like 47 tough rounds overall. Even if he gets the W against Mayorga, he's going to leave another small piece of himself in the ring. |
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Jan 24 2011, 09:39 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,498 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,970 |
We've seen Arum risk Cotto before, even to GoldenBoy with the Mosley fight. I'm not sure he didn't want him to lose to Foreman. The bolded part is what we are debating. I'm not so sure he does have anything left in the tank. With this fight I get the feeling we'll find out. He's far from a prime Cotto but he's the potential to still be one of the rightfully higher ranked fighters in his division, for the time being anyway. I think the real person in question is Mayorga, his last victory is a guy getting his ass kicked by prospects. Personally, I think it's competitive early on then Cotto goes on to win pretty soundly. From what I remember of Mayorga/Walker I'm pretty confident Miguel wins this one with no real issues. I really doubt Arum gave Foreman a chance, Mosley was a risk but a necessary risk. Cotto still can be used to make some money and that's probably why Arum refused a Martirosyan fight. I don't think he'd do that only to put him in a fight where he really thinks he'll be in some danger. This would actually be a pretty decent fight for Arum to get Cotto for future fights, I'm sure some question if Cotto has something left against someone with a punch and Mayorga be the man Arum wants to use to "show" he can. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's Cotto up for Pac next, it's all about the Benjamins now and Cotto can provide that name. |
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