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Nov 20 2009, 03:26 PM
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CAESAR, H.M.I.C. Group: Root Admin Posts: 21,447 Joined: 20-October 00 Member No.: 2 |
I see Berto being able to accomplish a better strategy than Mayorga did...and if Mayorga can find success, I think Berto's running and clinching could EASILY earn him a decision. I hope I'm wrong, but man, everything about this fight just seems like a setup for Shane to be upset.
I mean, yeah, Shane clobbered Margarito, but Margarito's strategy against Shane was on par with Ricky Hatton's strategy against Pacquiao. On the other hand, Shane didn't exactly put a beatdown on Cotto, Collazo, Jose Luis Cruz or David Estrada. Hell, he was barely even putting a beatdown on Mayorga, who can't box worth a lick. I'm just sayin....don't be surprised when those scorecards are read. |
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Nov 20 2009, 03:38 PM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,247 Joined: 12-December 07 From: St. Paul, MN Member No.: 6,534 |
I dunno I think sometimes a trainer can make a difference also and with Naaz Shane just might be the killer he says he is.
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Nov 20 2009, 03:45 PM
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Cruiserweight Group: Team BU Posts: 5,543 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 1,333 |
I dunno I think sometimes a trainer can make a difference also and with Naaz Shane just might be the killer he says he is. I think too much is being made out of his trainer. He had Hopkins all for hismelf in the Taylor rematch and Hopkins actually did worse than the 1st time around. |
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Nov 20 2009, 04:00 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 4,200 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 3,047 |
Hell, he was barely even putting a beatdown on Mayorga, who can't box worth a lick. If that is the case, please tell me how Mayorga outpointed the purely skilled fighter in Forrest in the rematch? I mean you would think Forrest should have easily outboxed Mayorga, but he couldn't. And Forrest was in his prime. I seriously think Mosley might have trouble at first with Berto's speed and skills. But I just think with Naz, Shane is now at a different level than with his dad. I just do not see Berto being able to take Shane's punches. I guess we will see in 2 months what Mosley we get. |
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Nov 20 2009, 04:42 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 10-November 06 Member No.: 5,559 |
No Way in the world they dont make this fight happen. There is way too much money to be made. Get Manny's belt first and then unify with Mosley if he gets past Berto. Thats the best money and legacy route. I couldn't agree more. After all that he would clearly be the man at welterweight and fight Paul Williams. He could retire after that and be top 10 great all-time. |
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Nov 20 2009, 04:49 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 3,702 Joined: 27-April 08 From: NZ Member No.: 7,287 |
I couldn't agree more. After all that he would clearly be the man at welterweight and fight Paul Williams. He could retire after that and be top 10 great all-time. EXCEPT he will never fight Paul Williams. If Williams could get back down to 147 I just don't see that as a fight that PBF would ever contemplate. |
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Nov 20 2009, 04:57 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 10-November 06 Member No.: 5,559 |
He should fight a tune up in Jan. or early Feb. against Clottey or Margacheato. A tune up against a strong real welter.....Clottey is tough but Floyd would clearly out-box him. The one I really want him to fight for a tune up is Cheato!! I think he would chop Antonio to pieces....then again it might look like Baldomir-Mayweather revisited....either way I wanna see Cheato K.O.ed or embarrassed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I know neither fight will happen but I think if its another tune up he is gonna have it should be a tune up against a real welter who brings something to the table. Why the hell would he fight a tuneup against Clottey or Margarito when neither of them fight like Pacman? |
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Nov 20 2009, 06:06 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,762 Joined: 14-May 09 From: Tampa Bay Area Member No.: 10,273 |
So Floyd wants to fight Mosley now that he has a fight signed. Thats just funny. He's scared.
Does anyone remember when PBoif and his camp claimed over and over again that Marquez was a ppv draw because "he brings a whole country with him", and that was the reason he wasnt fighting Mosley. Anyone? I do, and now his camp has the audacity to say that Pac did more buys because he had a better dance partner... and he's going to use that as the excuse not to 50/50 with Pac. This dude just talks in circles and pretends like we're dumb enough not to figure it out. If you ask me, I think Pac and Mosley may wind up staying away from the PBoif drama altogether. |
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Nov 20 2009, 06:18 PM
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Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 6,758 Joined: 14-December 07 From: Washington DC Member No.: 6,540 |
So Floyd wants to fight Mosley now that he has a fight signed. Thats just funny. He's scared. Does anyone remember when PBoif and his camp claimed over and over again that Marquez was a ppv draw because "he brings a whole country with him", and that was the reason he wasnt fighting Mosley. Anyone? I do, and now his camp has the audacity to say that Pac did more buys because he had a better dance partner... and he's going to use that as the excuse not to 50/50 with Pac. This dude just talks in circles and pretends like we're dumb enough not to figure it out. If you ask me, I think Pac and Mosley may wind up staying away from the PBoif drama altogether. That's unlikely because they know that Mayweather would bring both of them career high paydays. |
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Nov 20 2009, 06:47 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,762 Joined: 14-May 09 From: Tampa Bay Area Member No.: 10,273 |
That's unlikely because they know that Mayweather would bring both of them career high paydays. I agree with that. I dont know the actual numbers, but how much difference would it be in money for Pac if he did 60/40 with Shane instead of 40/60 with PBoif? If it was reasonably close then why wouldnt Pac fight Shane? Shane is suppossed to be the easier fight for both guys according to popular opinion. So why not take the easier fight for reasonably close money and forgo the whole Mayweather drama? |
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