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> HBO@10:30PM(EST)/7:30(PST):Berto vs. Zavec-SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later, No New Spoilers, Duplicate Threads, or Public Streams
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post Sep 4 2011, 02:49 PM
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Berto looked better in this fight then he did against Ortiz. I only see Berto getting KO'd in the future based off exhaustion.
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post Sep 4 2011, 03:11 PM
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I don't understand why Berto fights the way he does. He sqaures up and lands shots but refuses to move his head and duck punches. He either needs to step out, he would have murdered Zavek had he stayed on the outside on his backfoot, or move his head. He needs to get rid of Morgan in his corner, the guy cant get through to him. Put Mayweather Sr/Naz/Manny Steward in his corner and he could really be something. He has all the elements, he just needs to learn how to use them effectively.
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post Sep 4 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (EAlbian @ Sep 4 2011, 04:11 PM) *
I don't understand why Berto fights the way he does. He sqaures up and lands shots but refuses to move his head and duck punches. He either needs to step out, he would have murdered Zavek had he stayed on the outside on his backfoot, or move his head. He needs to get rid of Morgan in his corner, the guy cant get through to him. Put Mayweather Sr/Naz/Manny Steward in his corner and he could really be something. He has all the elements, he just needs to learn how to use them effectively.


i think it's because he's had it easy. he can get away with it with the opposition he usually faces and he hasn't been tested enough to say to himself "i need to make a change". i haven't seen any real progression with him over the years, i think he actually might look worse than he used to.
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post Sep 4 2011, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 4 2011, 04:12 PM) *
i think it's because he's had it easy. he can get away with it with the opposition he usually faces and he hasn't been tested enough to say to himself "i need to make a change". i haven't seen any real progression with him over the years, i think he actually might look worse than he used to.


yea i agree. He seems like he's too top heavy, he looks like he's about to topple over sometimes. He needs to get rid of Morgan, how can he not see that he needs to move his head. This shit baffles me

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post Sep 4 2011, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Sep 4 2011, 05:12 PM) *
i think it's because he's had it easy. he can get away with it with the opposition he usually faces and he hasn't been tested enough to say to himself "i need to make a change". i haven't seen any real progression with him over the years, i think he actually might look worse than he used to.

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post Sep 4 2011, 09:21 PM
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post Sep 5 2011, 12:05 AM
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post Sep 8 2011, 08:59 AM
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Berto hasn't improved, very poor defense. I wonder why he's in the habit of wrapping his two arms around the outside of his opponent's shoulders, no matter how tight, and thinks that would hold his opponent back? As a result, he eats a lot of upper cuts. Very annoying "defensive" posture.

Otherwise, he's a guy some would consider an exiting fighter, as he throws and invites/eats a lot of hard punches. His ratio of landed:thrown punches is also very low for a champion, even at B-level.

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