[iKeNjiro]

Am I the only one who saw that Floyd seemed "not so there" tonight? Cotto is a slow guy, and not all that quick, but for him to tee off on Floyd was a bit weird. Again, did anyone find this fight weird?

lol I was staring at the screen confused
Floyd did seem off, I mean I can't explain it really...

I truly feel Floyd is done, he looked off in the Ortiz fight as well (Quick edit, he (Floyd) has the skill to fight and outbox anyone and win, but he has
lost a step, it could be father time and the weight playing a huge factor.)
Floyd is trying to please the fans with the toe to toe, and going up in weight
but honestly he seemed sloppy and lost at times in the fight
I was like WTF...go back at rd. 12 he had Cotto done, but seemed afraid or idk he just seemed happy to finish the fight.

He came out and saw Cotto was well trained and stronger and faster then he (Floyd) thought he would be
and it just looked like what's going on

Floyd's corner seemed confused as well
it was blood all over his face and they were not cleaning it well, Roger's advice was weird
I was confused...Someone who was watching made a pretty good point

Maybe Floyd was trying to sell the fight as tough, getting bloodied up and allowing himself to be hit against the ropes....
But again who knows? honestly who knows? look back at my old post, I said he seemed old in the Ortiz fight....idk

I do know that Manny is still an easier fight

This post has been edited by iKeNjiro: May 6 2012, 05:49 AM

[mgrover]

this was a damn good fight, and yes Floyd did take a lot of punches, but that's the risk of coming forward, usually he would just sit back and counter and that's how he won a lot of fights, Miguel looked greated but it just wasn't meant to be, no matter how you want to train, and how hard you work, some people are just better than you, and unfortunately for him Floyd was. I think he could be MP in a rematch.

Mayweathers got 2 years left since he wants to retire at 37, so that's around 4-5 fights? Potentially Canelo? But I doubt Golden Boy want to lose there mascot, there's always Martinez who would drop to 154, but he doesn't have a large following bullshit, so Floyd won't fight him. There is obviously MP but that's been discussed to death. I think he'll move back to welterweight and take his pick at the new comers from the Light Welterweight division, Khans an obvious favourite for the fight because of the numbers he is likely to do, Peterson is another, by that time Ortiz and Berto may of finally had a fight who knows, The winner of that to fight him.

Am pretty interested to see the PPV numbers

I pretty much was glued watching the fight cause at any time I clicked off it my stream broke lol good fight, I would of paid for it.

also 116-112.

This post has been edited by mgrover: May 6 2012, 05:57 AM

[sduck]

Floyd did look kind of tired to me than usual, but maybe he was trying to give up some of the rounds to make the fight exciting. Like I think it was the 6th round, where Cotto completely controlled the round, Floyd just stayed on the ropes and let Cotto get off on him (Floyd kept shaking his head as to say, "you not hurting me" but the commentary and crowd got real excited, because it's been a LONG time since you seen Floyd in that position, if any time). If you remember the sparring of Floyd with Omar Henry, this is probably what Floyd was training for. He let Henry constantly back him up against the ropes and stayed there. Even though it wasn't a very flashy dominating performance, it actually was an amazing performance, how Floyd went toe to toe and overall out fought Cotto for like half of the fight. I thought that was a gamble because Cotto could of controlled the fight if he bullied and out muscled Floyd. And you see Cotto had a solid jab too, which caught Floyd a few times. Cotto did exactly what I thought he should of done, but Floyd is just too good man. Floyd DID look pretty sharp, I was surprised at how sharp his defense looked, especially against a big hard hitting guy like Cotto. The effective clinching and shoulder rolls... Cotto also looked very good in this fight, and Floyd still clearly beat him. I mean for the people that still want to deny it, so be it, but Floyd is the truth. I've been quite aware of this, but I wanted to see if Cotto would prove me wrong, and... he didn't.

Also, this wasn't the first time Floyd bled from the nose and was forced to go toe to toe, watch his fight with Emmanuel Burton (Augustus). Who Floyd always claimed was his hardest fight to date... before Cotto.

This post has been edited by sduck: May 6 2012, 06:25 AM

[mitukczuk]

To me, Floyd looked great as well. He clearly wanted to make it an interesting fight and for the portion of it, he took a lot of chances and hit Cotto at will. Of course, as you know, if you are agressive you will be hit a bit more. I still say most of the punches were blocked and although Cotto did hit him, the more effective and HARDER punches were landed by Floyd.
Cotto did have a gameplan and it was similar to the De la Hoya fight to me. But same as De la Hoya I think he abandoned his jab, which he landed a few times.

Don't forget that this is Cotto, you were all saying he will take it to Floyd and make him uncomfortable. So, him being successful in that doesn't mean Floyd has slowed down or looked gassed or didn't look good. Of course he is 35, 154 is clearly NOT his weightclass and he weighed 147 during the fight. BUT he looked sharp, threw beautiful combos and got me glued to the screen for the whole fight. And to be honest, he seemed to be enjoying it.
As for the bleeding, I think we got used to the fact Floyd doesn't get hit, that when he does we tend to make it a huge deal. He DID get hit, but not THAT often. And again, it's Cotto. Floyd boxed only for like 2-3 rounds. Other than that it was a FIGHT. And more than that I finally believe Floyd when he says he loves contact and going toe to toe.

I scored it 8-3 and one even. Floyd won clearly and I still dont' get why Cotto was so upset. wanted to hear what he has to say.

This post has been edited by mitukczuk: May 6 2012, 07:38 AM

[Franchize]

Idont know if you guys have been spoiled or whatever but I think you guys are not only discrediting Floyd but Miguel Cotto as well. Miguel is a hall of fame fighter guys. Also, he is fighting at 154 like he should be. Cmon. This isnt some tomato can. I know Floyd blows great figters out the water but it really shouldnt be the norm. This isnt Cottos first walk around the park. I think we have grown accustomed to guys like Shane getting old,being content with surviving, and mailing it in. Cotto was in the best shape Ive ever seen him. He used his strength as he did in the Magarito fight to keep Floyd in front of him. Cotto's landed punches were greatly exaggerated and the bloody nose was mainly from Cottos jab. That being said, attributing this fight being close to Floyd not looking good is a bit unfair. He added yet anotger way to the list of ways he can beat you. He sat in the pocket and fought a greuling fight when all conventional wisdom would say that is Cottos biggest advantage. He pulled it out triumphantly IMO. Cotto was throwing with mean intentions and for once had the stamina to do it all 12 rounds. Some of you guys saw vulnerability. I saw a guy that is showing he can give it to you any way you want it and you still cant win. I did think Floyd was trying too hard to make Miguel feel his power.

Im disappointed Cotto didnt do an interview. It left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. He fought a great fight and made it extremely competitive but he CLEARLY lost. No debating. In fact, his own trainer told him before the 11th that the fight was even and the last two rounds were Cottos worst. He almost got KOd in the last round.

Also, I hope Im not the first, on a site full of heterosexual men, thats going mention how delicious Miss Jackson looked last night. Every time they zoomed in on her, R kelly and Public Announcements Honey Love played in my head. I was initially impressed with Melissa Cotto. They showed her early in the telecast. Miss Jackson came on later but when she did "my,my,my...(she) sho looked good tonight" Kudos to the camera man getting that profile view and holding it there for a while lol I thought it was messed up Lampley called her Floyds "current gf" though. Its been well documented by HBO that shes his fiance.

[mitukczuk]

Idont know if you guys have been spoiled or whatever but I think you guys are not only discrediting Floyd but Miguel Cotto as well. Miguel is a hall of fame fighter guys. Also, he is fighting at 154 like he should be. Cmon. This isnt some tomato can. I know Floyd blows great figters out the water but it really shouldnt be the norm. This isnt Cottos first walk around the park. I think we have grown accustomed to guys like Shane getting old,being content with surviving, and mailing it in. Cotto was in the best shape Ive ever seen him. He used his strength as he did in the Magarito fight to keep Floyd in front of him. Cotto's landed punches were greatly exaggerated and the bloody nose was mainly from Cottos jab. That being said, attributing this fight being close to Floyd not looking good is a bit unfair. He added yet anotger way to the list of ways he can beat you. He sat in the pocket and fought a greuling fight when all conventional wisdom would say that is Cottos biggest advantage. He pulled it out triumphantly IMO. Cotto was throwing with mean intentions and for once had the stamina to do it all 12 rounds. Some of you guys saw vulnerability. I saw a guy that is showing he can give it to you any way you want it and you still cant win. I did think Floyd was trying too hard to make Miguel feel his power.

Agreed !!!

I will use a quote of a fan who wrote this on David Matthew's article about the fight - "I think that Floyd is a victim of his own success: any round in which he is hit, at all, we are inclined to give to his opponent almost independent of what he did. The 5th round was a perfect example: Miguel Cotto won that round on many scorecards. Problem is, he didn’t actually win that round by any conceivable measure of what constitutes a winning round. He won that round largely because he didn’t look as bad in that round as he did rounds 1-4." - Cheekay Atomic

I totally forgot to mention that I liked the whole Merchant/Floyd interview and the fact that Floyd apologized. Although I don't think it was necessary as Merchant takes shot at him every interview, but it shows how Floyd really is.
I still can't believe how great fight it was. It was my first time watching Floyd fight live on tv without any spoilers and I was really thrilled. Can't imagine how electrifying it has to be in the arena.

This post has been edited by mitukczuk: May 6 2012, 08:23 AM

[BigFightFan]

Am I the only one who saw that Floyd seemed "not so there" tonight? Cotto is a slow guy, and not all that quick, but for him to tee off on Floyd was a bit weird. Again, did anyone find this fight weird?

He looked tired from looking at his eyes. Maybe he was worn out from all the events leading up to the fight. He definitely had to dig deep to win the fight.

[CrazyBuffalO]

Ive said in one of the threads that this is one of those fights that would turn out differently than what most expect. As is usually the case with fights these days. It was a lot tougher for Floyd than people were thinking.

One thing is for sure though, this means that a Floyd vs Pacquiao fight would be hot again. The last time Pacquiao fought he looked sloppy and it did take away the luster of a potential showdown with Floyd. Now Floyd has began looking a bit sloppy in his last fight too. So now, all of a sudden, Floyd and Manny is no longer so much a mismatch as most have begun to think.

Don't get me wrong though, i still think Floyd will beat Pacquiao. But the luster of such a fight is back!

[bnoles4life]

Am I the only one who saw that Floyd seemed "not so there" tonight? Cotto is a slow guy, and not all that quick, but for him to tee off on Floyd was a bit weird. Again, did anyone find this fight weird?

No, you're not the only one. At the weigh-in the day before, Floyd seemed to have more "energy" than usual, anxious if you will. I had never seen him like that. I think it showed in his fight, mainly b/c he was winded early (when was the last time you saw an opponent off his stool earlier than Floyd in b/t rounds?). Now, Miguel making this a rough fight and pounding to the body, surely didn't help, but Floyd wasn't as elusive as he should've been.

We have to give credit to Cotto in every way possible. He came to fight and stuck to his script. HOWEVER, did you notice the "Showtime, Live at the Apollo" Sandman back pedal he used at the end of rounds? He was TIRED and Floyd didn't capitalize. That let me know, Floyd's fuel wasn't at the usual "Money" capacity.

That being said, great freak'n fight. Cotto, in baseball terms, is what you call a "loud out". You get him out, but it's NEVER easy and scares the bajezzus outta you in the process.

[bnoles4life]

Also, I hope Im not the first, on a site full of heterosexual men, thats going mention how delicious Miss Jackson looked last night. Every time they zoomed in on her, R kelly and Public Announcements Honey Love played in my head. I was initially impressed with Melissa Cotto. They showed her early in the telecast. Miss Jackson came on later but when she did "my,my,my...(she) sho looked good tonight" Kudos to the camera man getting that profile view and holding it there for a while lol I thought it was messed up Lampley called her Floyds "current gf" though. Its been well documented by HBO that shes his fiance.

You may be the first to mention it on this thread, but you're surely NOT the only one who noticed. Good God, man. Money better save that dough...cuz if he pulls a Shane (get stuck for all your dough), she's outta there. I mean, women THAT delicious-lookin' don't work for a livin'....they just LOOK GOOD for a livin'. DAAAAAAAAAAAYUM!!!!