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AZWildCat
post Jan 16 2014, 07:55 PM
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How do "you" determine either?

String of wins
String of losses
Age
Health
Lifestyle
Activity level
competition level

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mgrover
post Jan 16 2014, 08:01 PM
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I don't quite understand what you asking? If based on what you've listed what would be in there prime and out there prime?
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post Jan 16 2014, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Jan 16 2014, 08:55 PM) *
How do "you" determine either?

String of wins
String of losses
Age
Health
Lifestyle
Activity level
competition level



def not by string of wins. case in point pacquiao who hasn't really looked that great since cotto/hatton, but has been the victor in many fights since. def not by age...look at bernard. his win over pavlik was one of his best and most dominant performances i thought. not lifestyle...rjj, de la hoya, tyson, and manny were party crazy throughout the high points of their careers.

just going through process of elimination, i couldn't really pick any single aspect you listed above. for me it's something intangible - i have to look at the strength/caliber of the fighter's opposition, the figther's boxing technique/ability to execute a game plan against that opposition, and how dominant a fighter is in a given fight. i compare all of these factors in a figther's career and determine if the fighter has improved or is on the decline. this is how i assess boxers and decide whether they're in or past their prime if i am understanding your question correctly.
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post Jan 16 2014, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Jan 16 2014, 07:55 PM) *
How do "you" determine either?

String of wins
String of losses
Age
Health
Lifestyle
Activity level
competition level

It pretty much answers itself. If its not one its the other.
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AZWildCat
post Jan 16 2014, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Jan 16 2014, 08:01 PM) *
I don't quite understand what you asking? If based on what you've listed what would be in there prime and out there prime?

How would "you" determine a fighter in or out of their prime ...I just gave examples
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post Jan 16 2014, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Jan 16 2014, 07:55 PM) *
How do "you" determine either?

String of wins
String of losses
Age
Health
Lifestyle
Activity level
competition level

In this order:
Age
Health
Activity level
String of wins
String of losses
Competition level
Lifestyle
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post Jan 16 2014, 10:20 PM
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Wins don't play a big part at all IMO.

Physical state
Durability
Reflexes
Speed
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AZWildCat
post Jan 16 2014, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE (ryustuh @ Jan 16 2014, 09:30 PM) *
def not by string of wins. case in point pacquiao who hasn't really looked that great since cotto/hatton, but has been the victor in many fights since. def not by age...look at bernard. his win over pavlik was one of his best and most dominant performances i thought. not lifestyle...rjj, de la hoya, tyson, and manny were party crazy throughout the high points of their careers.

just going through process of elimination, i couldn't really pick any single aspect you listed above. for me it's something intangible - i have to look at the strength/caliber of the fighter's opposition, the figther's boxing technique/ability to execute a game plan against that opposition, and how dominant a fighter is in a given fight. i compare all of these factors in a figther's career and determine if the fighter has improved or is on the decline. this is how i assess boxers and decide whether they're in or past their prime if i am understanding your question correctly.

competition level

You got the right idea
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AZWildCat
post Jan 16 2014, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Jan 16 2014, 09:37 PM) *
It pretty much answers itself. If its not one its the other.

I just threw in a few off the top that could be brought up... there's a bunch of factors to round up
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AZWildCat
post Jan 17 2014, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (Thickback @ Jan 16 2014, 11:20 PM) *
Wins don't play a big part at all IMO.

Physical state
Durability
Reflexes
Speed


Really digging this answer ....on the money!
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