 HBO@10:30P (ET), 9:30P(CT), 7:30P (PT): Dawson vs. Pascal (SPOILERS 15 Minutes Later), No Duplicate Threads or New Spoiler Topics |
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 Aug 17 2010, 03:59 PM
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Cruiserweight Group: Team BU Posts: 5,543 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 1,333  |
Method, if I knew that you were a Dawson hater, I would have nominated you in the "Biggest Hater" thread from a few months back.
By the way, I do agree that Dawson was exposed to a certain degree. Like some others have mentioned; It wasn't only some media members who were on his bandwagon but most fans as well. Now, some hype is natural when a guy exhibits talent, but it got out of hand when, after twice beating old guys, (one of which he had to go life and death with) many were saying he would beat anyone from 168 to 200 pounds. I also understand where Aware is coming from. For him, exposed means when you have a prospect lose, while everyone was raving about him, despite the fact that he hadn't beaten anyone of note. In this case Dawson had easily beaten Harding, Adamek, Tarver and Glen Johnston (easily the second time) thus prooving that he could improve from the first fight. On the other hand, he was exposed in the sense wrote about above; that some in the media and on the net were claiming that he was the best from 168 to 200 pounds. Hell, when Paul Williams was considered invincible (another example of being overhyped too soon) many were saying that the only one who could stop him was Dawson. |
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Aug 17 2010, 04:25 PM
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Truth is, "Triple M", I'm NOT a Dawson hater whatsoever. I just think he's overrated, and Im glad he got exposed. I genuinely like the guy, but he has done SHIT.
For all intents and purposes, Dawson was a prospect, with a controversial win over Johnson, two wins over Tarver, and Eric Harding. BIG FKN DEAL. Where are the wins that make him P4P? The one chance he had where he stepped up, he failed motherfucking MISERABLY. Maybe the new nickname should be, as spoken in the Rocky III voice, "Ain't so BAD!" Chad Dawson. |
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Aug 17 2010, 05:04 PM
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Super Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 3,702 Joined: 27-April 08 From: NZ Member No.: 7,287 |
QUOTE (Method @ Aug 17 2010, 07:23 AM)  ...and YES, Ollie, I DID comment on Dawson being sponsored by Condom Depot on his trunks, ESPECIALLY when he has something like 4-5 kids. LOL I'm sorry I missed that. Not really a good advert for the brand then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It reminds me of when Gary Oldman did some ads for a vodka a couple of years back even though he'd been in AA for quite some time. Gary defended the move by saying that when he did drink, the brand he was advertising had been his brand of choice. |
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Aug 17 2010, 05:24 PM
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Cruiserweight Group: Team BU Posts: 5,543 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 1,333 |
QUOTE (Method @ Aug 17 2010, 05:25 PM) Truth is, "Triple M", I'm NOT a Dawson hater whatsoever. I just think he's overrated, and Im glad he got exposed. I genuinely like the guy, but he has done SHIT. For all intents and purposes, Dawson was a prospect, with a controversial win over Johnson, two wins over Tarver, and Eric Harding. BIG FKN DEAL. Where are the wins that make him P4P? The one chance he had where he stepped up, he failed motherfucking MISERABLY. Maybe the new nickname should be, as spoken in the Rocky III voice, "Ain't so BAD!" Chad Dawson. That is exactly why I agree that he was exposed as not being the best P4P fighter in the world. He was always used to fighting in spots, using his footwork and handspeed to fight at his pace against older, slower fighters, and when the time came to actually have to chase a guy down he failed miserably. It was particularily embarassing, since he was the one saying that he would press the action and stop Pascal. |
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Aug 17 2010, 05:49 PM
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The Prime Minista Group: Team BU Posts: 6,677 Joined: 3-December 05 Member No.: 3,850 |
I got the sense that he was waiting for Pascal to get tired...especially since he didn't really step on the gas until the last couple of rounds. He failed to win the exchanges...hell, he didn't even contest them.
Lackluster is probably the best way to describe Dawson's performance. |
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Aug 18 2010, 12:34 AM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 17 2010, 01:04 PM) Stallone's wife told me that Sly wanted Roy in the roll AFTER the third Tarver bout, but the deal fell apart during the negotiations. Tarver got the roll as the second choice. Sly didn't care about who actually won the bout, he wanted to see how each fighter reacted to the crowd (and vice versa). Roy carried the crowd that night...which is pretty funny considering Tarver claims Tampa as his hometown. lol I think I'm the only one that noticed Sly had on a pair of Jordan/Jones all black boots in that fight with Tarver. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://rockybalboa.altervista.org/Rocky%20Balboa/Rocky%20sul%20ring%2001.jpg) This post has been edited by King Eugene: Aug 18 2010, 12:36 AM |
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Aug 18 2010, 10:09 AM
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As a 5-1 favorite? I cleaned UP on Pavlik getting his ass handed to him by Hopkins.
My whole "exposed" EXPOSed or whatever the fuck else you wanna say was with regards to some knucklehead coming in here talking about Dawson being P4P. I take exception to that. what's more, as other astute members of these boards have described, the term generally refers to prospects, etc. Well, when your biggest wins are coming against washed up 40 year old journeymen (AND you should have LOST to one of them), and you have no MAJOR wins on your resume, does the fact that you hold a belt in an thin division mean you automatically graduate from "prospect" or "up & comer" to P4P? Not really. What's the difference? The fact that HBO backed that ass? Fuck that. |
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Aug 18 2010, 12:34 PM
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The Prime Minista Group: Team BU Posts: 6,677 Joined: 3-December 05 Member No.: 3,850 |
I think that Adamek is a major win for Dawson.
QUOTE (King Eugene @ Aug 18 2010, 01:34 AM) I think I'm the only one that noticed Sly had on a pair of Jordan/Jones all black boots in that fight with Tarver. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I noticed that. I always thought about getting those boots...they're supposed to give better ankle support. This post has been edited by Spyder: Aug 18 2010, 12:39 PM |
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Aug 18 2010, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 18 2010, 05:34 PM) I noticed that. I always thought about getting those boots...they're supposed to give better ankle support. Yeah but they're heavy as fuck. Hard to box with em, but they're good casual shoes. |
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Aug 19 2010, 12:34 AM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 18 2010, 01:34 PM) I noticed that. I always thought about getting those boots...they're supposed to give better ankle support. Yea I was going to get some just to train in but I wasn't paying $130 just for some training boots. I got me some good ol $40 Adidas lol. QUOTE (Snoop @ Aug 18 2010, 02:46 PM) Yeah but they're heavy as fuck. Hard to box with em, but they're good casual shoes. I read that a lot in the reviews and I heard that they tear after about a year. Some of the guys at my gym wear those and a the super high boots and they like them. I dont need all of that at the moment. |
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