 PPV: Chavez vs. Martinez@9PM(ET)/6PM(PT) SPOILERS (Topics Merged), (Rematch?) |
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 Sep 16 2012, 02:37 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,562 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050  |
Oh yeah, one more thing...
Guys should give Julio credit for being a warrior and sustaining that type of punishment, and digging deep for that come-from-behind win that he almost claimed. If Julio's STILL a bum and a thorn in the ass to the sport of boxing, then guys shouldn't be adjusting their P4P lists and bumping Sergio up. You cant have it both ways, if Sergio is one of the best P4P fighters after last night's victory, then Julio cant be considered a bum by any stretch of the imagination. As subjective as P4P lists are (or can be), there has to be SOME type of legitimacy somewhere in there (the fighter's opponents being formidable). Honestly, I still cant say that Martinez is at the top of my P4P list (not that I care much about the list), but he may be in guys' book. It's like Donaire being in somebody's top 5 (of 10) list, who has he fought as of late (aside from Vasquez Jr)? Again, P4P lists are subjective in a full of gray areas backed by a "fan's" interpretation of the fighter and his accomplishments. |
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Sep 16 2012, 03:02 PM
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mine goes something like
ward first martinez second i dont even know whos third anymore probably the klits for there sheer domination vitali 3rd and good ole wlad fourth i guess pac makes 5th or so, i still don't know with him since even though i felt like he beat bradley, he just didn't do it in that p4p way fill in the rest of the gaps yourself mayweathers been removed cause i think he's called it a day |
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Sep 16 2012, 03:12 PM
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Martinez did all that with a torn ligament in the knee and a broken left hand.....
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Sep 16 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 16 2012, 09:12 PM)  Martinez did all that with a torn ligament in the knee and a broken left hand..... just made this entire situation awkward lol |
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Sep 16 2012, 04:25 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,979 Joined: 18-August 11 From: California Grown Member No.: 13,079 |
We all know chavez is a bully at 160 and most admitted this wouldn't be easy for Martinez. But it was clear he could outbox him and he did pretty easily until the 12th. His pride was almost his downfall if he didn't try to Exchange and kept boxing he could have easily pitched a shut out. But I mean it was his first ppv fight, he probably knew that if he didn't Exchange he wouldn't get another. I don't think a rematch should go down, especially not at Dallas stadium. It was sheer domination until the 12th.
Btw I was extremely surprised they scored the fight so well! |
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Sep 16 2012, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 16 2012, 03:33 PM) just made this entire situation awkward lol hahahaha |
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Sep 16 2012, 04:37 PM
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Judging from the post fight reactions from both camps, it looks like they favor a rematch in the house that Jerry Jones built. I don't like that for Martinez, I would expect the same thing that happened with JMM-Pacquio to him if he went ahead and fought in Texas
Plus their commission is so lax and they always seem to ride with the popular fighter (i.e. JCC jr) |
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Sep 16 2012, 04:46 PM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,979 Joined: 18-August 11 From: California Grown Member No.: 13,079 |
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 16 2012, 05:37 PM) Judging from the post fight reactions from both camps, it looks like they favor a rematch in the house that Jerry Jones built. I don't like that for Martinez, I would expect the same thing that happened with JMM-Pacquio to him if he went ahead and fought in Texas Plus their commission is so lax and they always seem to ride with the popular fighter (i.e. JCC jr) Definitely. |
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Sep 16 2012, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Sep 16 2012, 03:02 PM) mine goes something like ward first martinez second i dont even know whos third anymore probably the klits for there sheer domination vitali 3rd and good ole wlad fourth i guess pac makes 5th or so, i still don't know with him since even though i felt like he beat bradley, he just didn't do it in that p4p way fill in the rest of the gaps yourself mayweathers been removed cause i think he's called it a day Martinez second p4p? Lol! |
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Sep 16 2012, 05:05 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 813 Joined: 26-April 11 Member No.: 11,903 |
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 16 2012, 02:37 PM) Oh yeah, one more thing... Guys should give Julio credit for being a warrior and sustaining that type of punishment, and digging deep for that come-from-behind win that he almost claimed. If Julio's STILL a bum and a thorn in the ass to the sport of boxing, then guys shouldn't be adjusting their P4P lists and bumping Sergio up. You cant have it both ways, if Sergio is one of the best P4P fighters after last night's victory, then Julio cant be considered a bum by any stretch of the imagination. As subjective as P4P lists are (or can be), there has to be SOME type of legitimacy somewhere in there (the fighter's opponents being formidable). Honestly, I still cant say that Martinez is at the top of my P4P list (not that I care much about the list), but he may be in guys' book. It's like Donaire being in somebody's top 5 (of 10) list, who has he fought as of late (aside from Vasquez Jr)? Again, P4P lists are subjective in a full of gray areas backed by a "fan's" interpretation of the fighter and his accomplishments. or give martinez any credit for beating chavez. |
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