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> Pavlik drunk again, allegedly attacks his brother
Big Slim Sweet
post Jul 12 2011, 04:31 PM
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http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/jul/12/pavl...at-parents8217/

Fitz I know you're shocked.

I copy and pasted the most meaningful excerpt.

According to police, Kelly, after exchanging words with Michael, “punched the west-facing side door of the home and pulled his brother, Michael, out of the broken window.” Reports say officers found glass to have been broken and blood on nearby steps. Michael Pavlik, police said, appeared to have minor cuts to his arms and hands, but told officers at the scene that he did not need an ambulance or medical attention. Kelly Pavlik had left the home before officers arrived and police could not contact him for questioning. Michael Pavlik, reportedly, told officers repeatedly he did not wish to file charges against his brother. Jack Loew, Kelly’s trainer, said he was unaware of the fight as of Monday afternoon. Several calls to Kelly Pavlik were not returned.

Pavlik's supposed to fight in 3 weeks as a final tune up to a likely bout with Bute. This doesn't sound too good.
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post Jul 12 2011, 04:36 PM
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Can't get away from those demons.
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post Jul 12 2011, 05:23 PM
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Shouldn't be touching any alcohol this close to a fight. Shame on him.
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post Jul 12 2011, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Sunni6Killer @ Jul 12 2011, 04:36 PM) *
Can't get away from those demons.

He got away from the police though! Come on Son!( Ed Lovers voice) I Hope he doesn't blow the Bute fight I want to see what Bute really has.
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post Jul 12 2011, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jul 13 2011, 08:23 AM) *
Shouldn't be touching any alcohol this close to a fight. Shame on him.


I hope you never suffer from any addiction in your life. It is not something where you have a choice about drinking if you are in active "action".

I may be the only person on here that actually feels sorry for this guy. Having suffered from my demons for many years I can only feel sorry for him & hope he can get the help he clearly needs.

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post Jul 12 2011, 06:01 PM
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if Pavlik had a mullet and drove an old Camaro this shit would be epic. this dude could not even have a PPV and i would send him $54.95 just for keeping boxing alive.
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post Jul 12 2011, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 12 2011, 06:44 PM) *
I hope you never suffer from any addiction in your life. It is not something where you have a choice about drinking if you are in active "action".

I may be the only person on here that actually feels sorry for this guy. Having suffered from my demons for many years I can only feel sorry for him & hope he can get the help he clearly needs.

He was Middleweight Champion of the World with seven figure paydays...

NOPE. I don't feel sorry for him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nea.gif)
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post Jul 12 2011, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jul 12 2011, 06:44 PM) *
I hope you never suffer from any addiction in your life. It is not something where you have a choice about drinking if you are in active "action".

I may be the only person on here that actually feels sorry for this guy. Having suffered from my demons for many years I can only feel sorry for him & hope he can get the help he clearly needs.


I got a co worker right now that has serious alcohol problems. Just observing him it seems he is struggling with himself...almost like he has an identity crisis going on inside of him. He has no clue where he's headed in life. He has a 7 year old girl and one moment he talks like she is the world yet he's constantly in a drunken state or drinks around her. Now that she is out of town on vacation this guy has drank himself to the point to where he hasn't even been to work this week so far and we all know it's b/c he probably drank starting friday-sunday all day no food by himself.

This guy has both parents, grew up in a nice home in a nice neighborhood...the whole good family deal....he just has problems with himself it seems (he's 34) and I thinks it's an identity crisis (he literally is living backwards imo) yet when he talks with me it's like he tries to express he has problems to be honest....I tell him it don't mean nothing to me....you gotta do what is right for you when you want to. Telling me being all honest with me isn't going to change YOU.

In a nutshell, I get where you are coming from. I thank GOD I don't have any addictions as a result from inner demons.
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post Jul 12 2011, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Jul 13 2011, 09:02 AM) *
He was Middleweight Champion of the World with seven figure paydays...

NOPE. I don't feel sorry for him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nea.gif)


If you could explain what money has to do with being a out of control addict I would be most interested. Does having millions help you wrestle with demons?

Now if on a personal level you don't like him & are enjoying his self destruction they good for you but don't give me a BS line about how you don't feel sorry for him as he had 7 figure paydays. That has NOTHING to do with his addiction except allowing him to drink higher quality liquor as opposed to cheap rotgut.

Unless you have walked a mile in those shoes you have no idea of what it is like to be totally out of control & being unable to pull yourself up. It is not fun in any way shape or form & if he keeps going the way he is do not be surprised to find the headline "Former undisputed middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik commits suicide". Some would probably get a kick out of it & I am sure it would give plenty here a good belly laugh.



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post Jul 12 2011, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Jul 13 2011, 09:12 AM) *
This guy has both parents, grew up in a nice home in a nice neighborhood...the whole good family deal....he just has problems with himself it seems (he's 34) and I thinks it's an identity crisis (he literally is living backwards imo) yet when he talks with me it's like he tries to express he has problems to be honest....I tell him it don't mean nothing to me....you gotta do what is right for you when you want to. Telling me being all honest with me isn't going to change YOU.


Similar story. The most positive part is that he is accepting he has a problem & talking about it with someone he trusts. It may take years for him to hit bottom & every bottom has a trapdoor & you can sink lower.

Only he can make the decision to get help though but his getting honest with you is a strong sign of a desire to get better. Now he just has to get honest with himself. You can't do this stuff for your family, friends, job or anything like that you can only be selfish & do it for yourself before anyone else.


I should add this is a sensitive subject for me & I have very strong opinions on it based on the sum of my experiences.

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