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jaz
post Nov 16 2011, 06:42 PM
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Here's is the CORRECT list:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/72416...-boxers-nos-1-3

Note: Results are through Nov. 15.


1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
Welterweight titlist
Record: 42-0, 26 KOs
Age: 34

Mayweather

Hits: Even after 16 months out of the ring following his near shutout of Shane Mosley in May 2010, Mayweather returned to action on Sept. 17 and showed not the slightest bit of rust. Still fast and possessing great defense and underrated power, Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz (albeit in controversial fashion) in the fourth round to reclaim one of the titles he had previously given up. Now, instead of disappearing on another long layoff, Mayweather has announced plans to return on May 5, ideally against Manny Pacquiao -- if Pacquiao's people will come to the bargaining table.

Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?

2. MANNY PACQUIAO
Welterweight titlist
Record: 54-3-2, 38 KOs
Age: 32

Pacquiao

Hits: Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, who had already produced two memorable battles in featherweight and junior lightweight title bouts, met for the third time Nov. 12 and gave fight fans a worthy trilogy with another outstanding and highly competitive fight. With Pacquiao's victory, the path is wide open for him to at long last meet Mayweather in the fight the world wants to see.

Misses: Pacquiao, who was a massive favorite to beat Marquez because they were fighting at welterweight, looked as vulnerable as he has in a long time. Although he eked out a majority decision, few would have quarreled had Marquez gotten the win or had the fight been ruled a draw. Pacquiao looked confused at times and lacked snap on his punches in a less-than-stellar outing. It just wasn't the kind of performance we have come to expect from Pacquiao, especially in light of the fact that Marquez had been wiped out by Mayweather in 2009 in his only other welterweight fight. Although a fourth fight with Marquez is certainly warranted at some point, it absolutely should not be next, which is what Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, is talking about pursuing. Mayweather should be next, and it's going to have to be up to Pacquiao to stand up to Arum and tell him to make a deal. Period.

3. SERGIO MARTINEZ
Middleweight champion
Record: 48-2-2, 27 KOs
Age: 36

Martinez

Hits: If there is a silver lining to the apparent implosion of Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations before they have even begun, it is that Martinez, the 2010 fighter of the year, might be an attractive opponent for Mayweather, who plans to fight May 5. Martinez has said repeatedly he would drop down in weight for the opportunity to face Mayweather or Pacquiao. If Pacquiao is going to fight Marquez for a fourth time, Mayweather could make a big statement by taking on Martinez near 150 pounds.

Misses: When Martinez defended the middleweight championship against massive underdog Darren Barker on Oct. 1, he had a significant struggle before stopping him in the 11th round. It was far from Martinez's best night.
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:51 PM
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'Preciate the update!
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post Nov 17 2011, 09:10 AM
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Dan Rafael is a fat fuck who needs to have the shit slapped out of him. This motherfucker, like the rest of ESPN, doesn't know shit about the sport he's covering. Fighters get asked all the time, RIGHT AFTER their fights as to who they want next. You know why ? Because chances are they've already thought about what's down the road for them. Can't even put Mayweather in his rightful place without some kind of backhanded comment.

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post Nov 17 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (jaz @ Nov 16 2011, 06:42 PM) *
Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?


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I agree Max!

I find it odd how the media pisses and moans about Floyd not being active and taking long layoffs, but as soon as he attempts to make the biggest fight in history, they cry about him rushing Pacquiao. Who gives a flying flock of rat shit about Pacquaio unwinding? Seriously Dan? You think Arum cares about Pacquiao winding down? He doesn't.

I find it funny how Arum scheduled the 3rd Marquez fight just days before Manny even stepped in the ring with Mosley. We quickly found out who he Arum inked as Pac's next opponent not too long after the Margarito fight, which happened to be Mosley. Again, FMJ is being ridiculed for trying to make the fight happen so quickly,, but yet, Arum has Pac's schedule lined up already...with no "winding down time". Go figure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif)
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post Nov 17 2011, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 17 2011, 10:00 AM) *
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I agree Max!

I find it odd how the media pisses and moans about Floyd not being active and taking long layoffs, but as soon as he attempts to make the biggest fight in history, they cry about him rushing Pacquiao. Who gives a flying flock of rat shit about Pacquaio unwinding? Seriously Dan? You think Arum cares about Pacquiao winding down? He doesn't.

I find it funny how Arum scheduled the 3rd Marquez fight just days before Manny even stepped in the ring with Mosley. We quickly found out who he Arum inked as Pac's next opponent not too long after the Margarito fight, which happened to be Mosley. Again, FMJ is being ridiculed for trying to make the fight happen so quickly,, but yet, Arum has Pac's schedule lined up already...with no "winding down time". Go figure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif)

With that bein' said, a lot people still act like they don't understand what Floyd means when he says, "I'm always in a no-win situation. I'll never get my just due." That shit applies to him in and out of the ring. It's sad!
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post Nov 17 2011, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Nov 17 2011, 10:25 AM) *
With that bein' said, a lot people still act like they don't understand what Floyd means when he says, "I'm always in a no-win situation. I'll never get my just due." That shit applies to him in and out of the ring. It's sad!


Yep! Spot on! The only fight that Floyd will lose against Manny, is outside of the ring. Like you said, he constantly reiterates how he's in a no-win situation and the media confirms it. He will always be held responsible for the fight not happening, whether its true or not.
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post Nov 17 2011, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 17 2011, 11:00 AM) *
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I agree Max!

I find it odd how the media pisses and moans about Floyd not being active and taking long layoffs, but as soon as he attempts to make the biggest fight in history, they cry about him rushing Pacquiao. Who gives a flying flock of rat shit about Pacquaio unwinding? Seriously Dan? You think Arum cares about Pacquiao winding down? He doesn't.

I find it funny how Arum scheduled the 3rd Marquez fight just days before Manny even stepped in the ring with Mosley. We quickly found out who he Arum inked as Pac's next opponent not too long after the Margarito fight, which happened to be Mosley. Again, FMJ is being ridiculed for trying to make the fight happen so quickly,, but yet, Arum has Pac's schedule lined up already...with no "winding down time". Go figure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes_anim.gif)


I find it interesting that Arum said Floyd making the fight was a "sick joke" and that May is afraid "of Manny's right hand" so when Ellerbe checked mated Arum and Pac's poor showing against JMM now May wants to fight Manny because he looks like he slowed down. How was May suppose to know what Manny was going to do? I swear these boxing experts are stupid. Even Bert Sugar said that May is afraid of Pac. Bert Freakin Sugar! I wonder if they are feeling stupid?
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