[Maxy]

I don't think Dirrell was totally faking it but the more I see it the more I'm inclined to believe that he exaggerated the effects of that punch.

I'm sure he could have gotten up but that's not to say I have any qualms about the DQ. Abraham hit him when he was down and that's the way it goes.

Dirrell though, man, he's still a complete bitch in my eyes....even though he looked a lot better than in the Froch fight.

[enigma1969]

What BHop and Tyson has done in the past holds no bearing on what happened last night.

Abraham did get caught up in the moment and acted like a childish brat. Like I said, even if Dirrell was faking, it's better to take his word, wish him well, then be wrong about it, then vice versa. It's just a lack of concern or respect for the other fighter IMO.

But yes, boxing is the greatest sport ever.

I am just comparing things Snoop. Adding some perceptive because you stated that King Arthur's statement was classless.

We just agree to disagree because I don't think it was.

Fighters disrespect each all of the time. Its part of the game. Their mind-set is this " You have to make me respect you!"

And when you have one guy who fought with a broken jaw for 8 rounds and another know for flopping around the ring than you are going to have one thinking he's BSing.

Echols said the same thing after he bodyslammed Bhops in their rematch and as Hopkins roll around in pain. " Bernard is FAKING it!"

This is a rough sport.

It makes me laugh when I hear people say that such and such fighter shouldn't have reacted this way or said that. Hopkins made this statement after fight Kieth Holmes and George Foreman called him a dirty fighter. The same George Foreman who cold cock Frazier on the back of the head.

I have always had a theory about boxing, unlike other sports with the exception of tennis. It is a one on one sport. You have no teammates to calm you down or a coach to call time out and pull you out of the game and have you cool off.

In boxing your true character will be revealed.

And some fighters pull games ... such as King Arthur from the fights I have seen of him has always complained body shots. Dirrell flops and bends at the waist, Hopkins will grab and hit people low, PBF uses his elbow to create space, and I could go on.

Many fighters will tell you that they will do whatever it takes to win!

I did a interview with O'Neil Bell a few years ago and I asked him about his first fight against Mormeck.


"A lot of people said that you were hitting behind his head on purpose. How do you answer this? "

His answer -

"I am going to tell you like this. The rules says clearly protect yourself at all times. And if a man deliberately turns the back of his head to me than I got no choice but to take his ass out. It’s up to the ref to stop the fight. And if he does it again I will bust his ass again. That could be advantage to his end by turning his head hoping I won’t hit him but I will crack you to the fullest. You know what I am saying? I abide by the rules. Protect yourself at all times. You know not to bend over below the belt you know not to turn your head to the fighter. He suffered the consequences and went down."

Like is said we just agree to disagree. Much respect for your passionate though.

[Mean Mister Must...]

Direll was winning the fight before Abraham panicked and drilled him but he was not "owning" him and that sucks for everyone else who fights Abraham because the man ihas proven to be dangerous from rounds 1-12, whether you are on your feet or off.

Froch might be an awkward bully but he does have skills, you don't beat Pascal, Taylor and Direll by being a cavemen. He is nothing like Mayroga because he actually implements defensive moves and has a jab.

Ward, in my eyes, might be the guy to win it all seeing him being able to mix in outside boxing with inside dirty clinchings. I also like how he headbutts guys and gets away with it. Everyone is still a live dog though because they can all beat each other on a given night. These are after all, the best guys in the division.

[enigma1969]

Thats exactly how I saw it. Abraham was exposed a bit. He looked VERY SLOW and Clumsy. I NOW know that Ward is the best 168lber in the world.

We don't know if WARD is the best yet. Just because Ward schooled Mikkel Kessler doesn't mean he won't get beat by Allan Green or Dirrell. That's why we have the Super Six. The last man standing will be the best. We have a lot of fights left. Styles make fights.

[MarzB]

It's funny how there are still people saying, "he was faking" (which is subjective and pretty much you're sick puppy but I understand thats the cyber way for some) as opposed to admonishing Abraham for a clear foul.

Abraham "says" he didn't see him. Ok let me ask this. The guy isn't in front of you and you CLAIM you were blinded by your peripherals. The guy is taller than you by a couple inches. If he's NOT to the left or right or in front of you, WHERE DO YOU THINK HE IS?? Oh the "I didn't know he was down" thing but I know EXACTLY where to AIM my shot on a guy who's at my KNEE level who's taller than me. That doesn't mean he's DOWN, it just means he's ducking RIGHT??

And some people believe this bullschit. Get outta here. Myself and others have described what was going on in the fight. Abaraham getting "boxed off" lends definitely more to him throwing an illegal frustration shot than Direll "faking". But hey, you guys who say he was faking were HIT with the shot so you'd know. You're the experts (sarcasm)

[D-MARV]

We don't know if WARD is the best yet. Just because Ward schooled Mikkel Kessler doesn't mean he won't get beat by Allan Green or Dirrell. That's why we have the Super Six. The last man standing will be the best. We have a lot of fights left. Styles make fights.

Im aware of that... Ward still has a lot to prove but right now he has to be the front runner.

[Mean Mister Must...]

It's funny how there are still people saying, "he was faking" (which is subjective and pretty much you're sick puppy but I understand thats the cyber way for some) as opposed to admonishing Abraham for a clear foul.

Abraham "says" he didn't see him. Ok let me ask this. The guy isn't in front of you and you CLAIM you were blinded by your peripherals. The guy is taller than you by a couple inches. If he's NOT to the left or right or in front of you, WHERE DO YOU THINK HE IS?? Oh the "I didn't know he was down" thing but I know EXACTLY where to AIM my shot on a guy who's at my KNEE level who's taller than me. That doesn't mean he's DOWN, it just means he's ducking RIGHT??

And some people believe this bullschit. Get outta here. Myself and others have described what was going on in the fight. Abaraham getting "boxed off" lends definitely more to him throwing an illegal frustration shot than Direll "faking". But hey, you guys who say he was faking were HIT with the shot so you'd know. You're the experts (sarcasm)

People are criticizing Abraham for fouling. I think you're getting things twisted here. No one is saying this is Direll's fault, abraham had no right to hit him while he was down. There is however, some doubt as to whether Direll was really KO'd or not. Regardless of whether he was or not, Abraham is still in the wrong here. Now calm down.

[D-MARV]

Direll was winning the fight before Abraham panicked and drilled him but he was not "owning" him and that sucks for everyone else who fights Abraham because the man ihas proven to be dangerous from rounds 1-12, whether you are on your feet or off.

Dirrell owned him for 10 rounds man.

[enigma1969]

People are criticizing Abraham for fouling. I think you're getting things twisted here. No one is saying this is Direll's fault, abraham had no right to hit him while he was down. There is however, some doubt as to whether Direll was really KO'd or not. Regardless of whether he was or not, Abraham is still in the wrong here. Now calm down.

Co-Sign.

[Mean Mister Must...]

Dirrell owned him for 10 rounds man.

Owned was Hopkins-Trinidad or Barerra-Hamed where one guys lands a ton of clean punches and has his way with the other. Direll was outworking him but he was still getting hit and moreover was slowing down considerably. You want to call that owned, go ahead. I would rather call it a lesson. In fact, later on I'm going to make a list of boxing terminology explaining each one. I will be focusing on definitions of "Robbery", "Close fight", "Edged", "Schooled", "owned" and "KTFO".