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> HBO@10:15PM(ET)/7:15(PT) Rios vs. Alverado II-SPOILERS, No New Spoilers, Duplicate Threads, or Public Streams
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post Apr 1 2013, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 1 2013, 03:46 PM) *
maybe but if a guy is constantly throwing jabs at you you'd think to learn to slip it at some point in your career, I remember my coach, he was like slip the jab damn it, till I finally learnt to slip it atleast, imagine if a professional boxer who brawls could slip it and throw a left hook. I think that'd be someone worth while fighting.


don't get me wrong...i value head movement. slipping to me is the best form of defense because it leaves your opponent totally vulnerable to counter punches. most mexican coaches i know do NOT like head movement. they believe it leaves you vulnerable to body punches. i thought that was the craziest thing i ever heard to be honest. different strokes for different folks i guess.
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post Apr 2 2013, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 1 2013, 03:19 AM) *
Nah you wasn't the only one that noticed lol....and I knew Rios had weight problems as far as making weight but I didn't know he was that big. He came into the fight weighting 161



QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 1 2013, 09:15 AM) *
And just to think, at 135, this dude used to come in at about 157. I specifically remember him coming into the A. Peterson fight at 157 lbs. Rios is a BIG dude.

Alvarado wasn't far behind either dude came in at 158 I think, this rehydrating shit is getting ridiculous. Motherfuckers would have been middleweights back in the day.
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post Apr 2 2013, 12:35 PM
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Still laughing at how Alvarado was getting buckled in the 2nd round. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Totally unnecessary
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post Apr 2 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 2 2013, 01:50 AM) *
don't get me wrong...i value head movement. slipping to me is the best form of defense because it leaves your opponent totally vulnerable to counter punches. most mexican coaches i know do NOT like head movement. they believe it leaves you vulnerable to body punches. i thought that was the craziest thing i ever heard to be honest. different strokes for different folks i guess.


I always thought it left people more exposed to the right hand if the counter punch isn't fast enough but you could always slip the outside to avoid that
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post Apr 2 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 2 2013, 02:52 PM) *
I always thought it left people more exposed to the right hand if the counter punch isn't fast enough but you could always slip the outside to avoid that


the best slipping is done to the outside to avoid the counters. slipping to the inside can be deadly. trinidad used to slip a jab to the inside and counter with the hook. very dangerous.
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post Apr 3 2013, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 2 2013, 11:21 PM) *
the best slipping is done to the outside to avoid the counters. slipping to the inside can be deadly. trinidad used to slip a jab to the inside and counter with the hook. very dangerous.


It pays off I think especially for perfectly exposed chin. As long as your opponent doesn't realise your slipping on the inside every single time and eat a right hand counter
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post Apr 3 2013, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 2 2013, 03:52 PM) *
I always thought it left people more exposed to the right hand if the counter punch isn't fast enough but you could always slip the outside to avoid that

I've never heard of someone being taught to slip inside, most fighters do that on their own. But that's a big mistake, its always slip to the outside of their elbow.
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post Apr 3 2013, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 3 2013, 12:43 PM) *
I've never heard of someone being taught to slip inside, most fighters do that on their own. But that's a big mistake, its always slip to the outside of their elbow.



trinidad had the slip to the inside timed perfect when he dropped vargas in the beginning of their fight. if done perfectly....it pays off.
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post Apr 3 2013, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 3 2013, 07:17 PM) *
trinidad had the slip to the inside timed perfect when he dropped vargas in the beginning of their fight. if done perfectly....it pays off.


Really does, it's one of those people don't see
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