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> Just heard from a solid that PBF & King..., have signed a $100 million contract!
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post Aug 10 2010, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 10 2010, 12:20 AM) *
Are you sure? I was sure that Hatton signed to GBP at least, and I also thought that they promoted or had something to do with the Mayweather-Hatton fight.

Golden Boy had EVERYTHING to do with that fight.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/media/2...2.8.07_date.htm

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12588

I don't know why Hype is trying to make it seem otherwise...lol...fess up Ben...why are you trying to hijack the narrative? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 10 2010, 12:29 AM
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post Aug 10 2010, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:41 AM) *
Casino revenue is irrelevant. Well...I shouldn't say that, but the only REAL relevance it has is when it comes to them making an offer for the venue. Other than that, it's all about PPV money baby...at least that's all HBO and advertisers really care about. LOL.

For the record, Ricky Hatton was the last time Floyd fought a non-GBP fighter.

In fact, technically speaking, the only Golden Boy fighters he's fought were Shane Mosley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar De La Hoya.

Actually, come to think of it, Manny Pacquiao has fought more Golden Boy fighters (Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera) than Floyd has. And don't get me started on his list of Top Rank fighters, including Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto, David Diaz, Jorge Solis, Hector Velazquez, Erik Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez (the first fight).

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I don't think the Casinos and those paying the site fees would consider revenue brought in that weekend by the fight irrelevant...it's all part of the money generated by these fights. So maybe they need to up the site fee to get these guys what they want. Irrelevant to HBO? Yes...I would agree with that, but the casinos? I would think otherwise.

As for Hatton...like Spyder said, that fight was all GBP...Hatton' promotional group couldn't do it, just like Floyd's, shortly after he signed with GBP anyway. The point was, Floyd and Arum do the same exact things...over time, yes, Pacquiao has fought more GBP fighters, but of late, which is what I am speaking of - it has been all in house, just like Floyd has done with GBP fighters.
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 9 2010, 01:05 PM) *
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I think all that could have been posted in another thread.

On a side note, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao could have taken place on May 1 of this year if Arum was really interested in making the fight.



I don't really believe that but ok!
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QUOTE (D-MARV @ Aug 9 2010, 10:50 PM) *
Did Hatton have any affiliation with Golden Boy? I really don't remember.


Marquez was definitely a set up for Floyd and Shane was the best possible fight that Floyd could have taken.

I don't think ANYONE is hyped for this Margarito-Pacquiao fight outside of a few hardcore fans. This fight will do SHIT compared to Mayweather-Mosley.


YES HE DID!

QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 10 2010, 12:07 AM) *
No, Hatton had no affiliation with GBP. The funny thing is Arum proposed Mayweather/Hatton while Mayweather was still a TR fighter.

I might try to watch a stream of Pacquiao/Margarito, I don't really care to see the Tijuana Light Breeze get embarrassed. I think it does the same as the Clottey fight, maybe a little better.


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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:49 AM) *
I already told you what's going on and how this will play out.

Revisit this link: http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.p...6087&st=10#

Do you guys think I'm just making blind guesses?

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Just messin with ya...but the fact that he was hanging with Watson is all you really need to know to figure it all out.

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NO MATTER WHAT BEN, you are the man! Can you get an interview with PBF himself & ask the hard questions that we all wanna know? The funny thing for me is I can see PBF sign with King but can't see PBF sign a multi fight deal! I see him only fighting one more time! I just don't think he really cares about a true legacy, it's all about MONEY for him & you can't totally hate on him for that!
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Spyder @ Aug 10 2010, 01:13 AM) *
Golden Boy had EVERYTHING to do with that fight.

http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/media/2...2.8.07_date.htm

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12588

I don't know why Hype is trying to make it seem otherwise...lol...fess up Ben...why are you trying to hijack the narrative? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I really don't understand why people can't READ EVERYTHING that I post before addressing me.

I NEVER SAID Golden Boy Promotions didn't have anything to do with the fight.

Like I already stated:

Golden Boy had something to do with the promotion because ever since Floyd split with Arum, Golden Boy has sold their promotional services to him.

What I DID SAY was that Ricky Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy Promotions fighters at the time he fought Floyd Mayweather.

The question that JD asked was when was the last time Floyd Mayweather faced a non-GBP fighter? The answer is Ricky Hatton!

If you recall (do your research...Google it, Bing it...or whatever your choice of search engines may be), Ricky Hatton was with Dennis Hobson just prior to the Mayweather fight. Then they had a falling out and, from what I recall, Hatton dumped him and was basically a free agent. He did not sign with Golden Boy Promotions until AFTER he had already fought Floyd Mayweather. Golden Boy Promotions sent out a lengthy press release to make the announcement in March of 2008, which again, was AFTER the Mayweather fight.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2162.html

I REPEAT, RICKY HATTON DID NOT SIGN WITH GOLDEN BOY UNTIL AFTER HIS FIGHT WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER

Please re-read the above referenced press release and pay special attention to the part that reads:

Hatton's first fight under this new promotional contract will be announced at a later date.

This was never about WHO promoted the event...but instead about who the last non-GBP fighter was that Floyd faced. And like I said, the answer is Ricky Hatton.

But whatever.
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 10 2010, 12:23 PM) *
I really don't understand why people can't READ EVERYTHING that I post before addressing me.

I NEVER SAID Golden Boy Promotions didn't have anything to do with the fight.

Like I already stated:

Golden Boy had something to do with the promotion because ever since Floyd split with Arum, Golden Boy has sold their promotional services to him.

What I DID SAY was that Ricky Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy Promotions fighters at the time he fought Floyd Mayweather.

The question that JD asked was when was the last time Floyd Mayweather faced a non-GBP fighter? The answer is Ricky Hatton!

If you recall (do your research...Google it, Bing it...or whatever your choice of search engines may be), Ricky Hatton was with Dennis Hobson just prior to the Mayweather fight. Then they had a falling out and, from what I recall, Hatton dumped him and was basically a free agent. He did not sign with Golden Boy Promotions until AFTER he had already fought Floyd Mayweather. Golden Boy Promotions sent out a lengthy press release to make the announcement in March of 2008, which again, was AFTER the Mayweather fight.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content2162.html

I REPEAT, RICKY HATTON DID NOT SIGN WITH GOLDEN BOY UNTIL AFTER HIS FIGHT WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER

Please re-read the above referenced press release and pay special attention to the part that reads:

Hatton's first fight under this new promotional contract will be announced at a later date.

This was never about WHO promoted the event...but instead about who the last non-GBP fighter was that Floyd faced. And like I said, the answer is Ricky Hatton.

But whatever.



INTERESTING!! He sure was hanging out with BHop, Mosley & DLH when he wasn't even signed to fight anyone!
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (JD @ Aug 10 2010, 06:41 AM) *
I don't think the Casinos and those paying the site fees would consider revenue brought in that weekend by the fight irrelevant...it's all part of the money generated by these fights. So maybe they need to up the site fee to get these guys what they want. Irrelevant to HBO? Yes...I would agree with that, but the casinos? I would think otherwise.

As for Hatton...like Spyder said, that fight was all GBP...Hatton' promotional group couldn't do it, just like Floyd's, shortly after he signed with GBP anyway. The point was, Floyd and Arum do the same exact things...over time, yes, Pacquiao has fought more GBP fighters, but of late, which is what I am speaking of - it has been all in house, just like Floyd has done with GBP fighters.


I was being facetious about casino money, which is why I said, "Well...I shouldn't say that, but the only REAL relevance it has is when it comes to them making an offer for the venue," and then put a big "LOL" at the end. HOWEVER, I will say that the PPV revenue, combined with the revenue generated from sponsors, FAR exceeds any site fee that a casino may offer, so when it comes to purse splits, I would think the ability to generate that kind of revenue is just a little more important than what the casinos are bringing in for a particular weekend...otherwise, like you said, maybe they SHOULD be asking for a far greater site fee (I'm thinking maybe double) than what they're getting. LOL. But whatever....that's a discussion for a totally different thread.

As for Hatton and Spyder...please see my above post. Like I said, Hatton WAS NOT a Golden Boy fighter until the year 2008...which was AFTER his fight with Mayweather. I never said Golden Boy DID NOT promote the event. WTF? Do you guys think I'm dumb or something? LOL.

Back to in-house fighters....there's a big difference between what Arum is doing and what Floyd is doing. Floyd isn't going out of his way to only fight Golden Boy fighters. I mean, Shane Mosley was the best fight to be made other than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao...there's no denying that. And Marquez...that was a tune-up after a lengthy retirement...I give him a pass on that one, just like I would give Pacquiao a pass on David Diaz (seeing as how that was his first and only fight at lightweight). But prior to that, like I already established, Ricky Hatton wasn't a Golden Boy fighter when that fight was being finalized and took place. Baldomir and Judah weren't Golden Boy fighters either...but that's besides the point. The point is, Bob Arum is PURPOSELY only matching Manny Pacquiao with Top Rank fighters now....Cotto, Clottey, Margarito...even him mentioning potential fights with Foreman, Cotto again, or Julio Cesar Chavez Jr....the guy is BLATANTLY keeping the fights in-house...and he's not the only fighter he's doing it with. But I think we both agree on that, so there's really no debating it. But I totally disagree with the notion that Floyd Mayweather is only looking to fight Golden Boy fighters....especially when he's only fought 3 in his entire career.

All I was simply saying was that Ricky Hatton was the last time that Floyd Mayweather fought a non-GBP fighter.


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post Aug 10 2010, 11:49 AM
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Ben, I might not always agree with you but you are one smart mofo bruh! You can back much of what you say with your knowledge! Mad props bruh!
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post Aug 10 2010, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:13 PM) *
I don't really believe that but ok!
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You don't believe that? Well, think of it this way...if Arum would have put just as much effort into getting Manny Pacquiao to agree to the 14-day cutoff during the arbitration in January as he apparently did 4 months later in May when he evidently convinced Pacquiao to finally agree to the 14-day cutoff, then guess what...Mayweather vs. Pacquiao would have taken place on May 1 with a 50/50 purse split, 14-day cutoff for random blood testing, 8 oz. gloves, etc. Instead, however, Arum threw like 5 hissy fits, set 4 different deadlines, threatened to walk on 3 occassions and came up with 69 different excuses why Pacquiao WOULD NOT take any blood tests. Oh, but now, all of a sudden, Arum is the nice guy working hard to make this fight and telling everyone not to be too harsh on Floyd. LOL. Unfuckingbelievable!

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QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:13 PM) *
YES HE DID!


NO HE DIDN'T!

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QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:13 PM) *
NO MATTER WHAT BEN, you are the man! Can you get an interview with PBF himself & ask the hard questions that we all wanna know? The funny thing for me is I can see PBF sign with King but can't see PBF sign a multi fight deal! I see him only fighting one more time! I just don't think he really cares about a true legacy, it's all about MONEY for him & you can't totally hate on him for that!


What hard question do you want to know the answer to? I can probably answer it for you already.

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post Aug 10 2010, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 10 2010, 12:30 PM) *
INTERESTING!! He sure was hanging out with BHop, Mosley & DLH when he wasn't even signed to fight anyone!


"Hanging out" and "being signed" are two different things.

Miguel Cotto hangs out with Oscar De La Hoya, but he's not a Golden Boy fighter.

Omar Henry has been doing some SERIOUS hanging out with Oscar De La Hoya and the Mayweathers, but he's not a Golden Boy fighter either.

Hell, honestly, I wouldn't even call guys like Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, Winky Wright, David Haye or Bernard Hopkins Golden Boy fighters. Truth be told, their relationship with Golden Boy Promotions is really no different than Floyd Mayweather's relationship with Golden Boy Promotions. Those guys are all basically free agents who utilize the promotional services of Golden Boy because they have to.

But again, that's a whole different topic which can be discussed in a different thread if someone so chooses to start it.
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