[checkleft]

he was landing a fair few right hands against ortiz, and when i say fair few it was most of the punches.

also i remember a lot of people mentioning DLH was walking through Mayweathers punches in there fight, maybe he's still insecure about that power.

Well I think they wore bigger gloves in the dlh fight plus dlh has always had a very good chin. As far as cottos speed improving because of this I don't see it, he is significantly slower than when he was at his peak against mosley.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Why are people still talking about that stupid 50/50 split? Again, one man can move as he pleases, while the other man needs permission from his boss to simply scratch his ass. Move on...

In what way does that negate the fact that one man has made concessions to make the fight a reality while the other keeps coming up with reasons why it cant?

[checkleft]

In what way does that negate the fact that one man has made concessions to make the fight a reality while the other keeps coming up with reasons why it cant?

Fact is they both make reasons why it can't. Before testing was the issue with pac, then when they shoot for a may 5 and when mayweather proposes a may 5 date the cut is an issue all of the sudden. And they propose June 9 knowing mayweather will not be able to make that date.

And to say that one man is the reason for this fight not happening shows your narrow vision in this whole situation. The fact is its been a number of people trying to keep the fight from happening.

This post has been edited by checkleft: Feb 29 2012, 04:00 PM

[Run and Gun Game...]

Fact is they both make reasons why it can't. Before testing was the issue with pac, then when they shoot for a may 5 and when mayweather proposes a may 5 date the cut is an issue all of the sudden. And they propose June 9 knowing mayweather will not be able to make that date.

And to say that one man is the reason for this fight not happening shows your narrow vision in this whole situation. The fact is its been a number of people trying to keep the fight from happening.

30m with no ppv revenue is like a 75/25 cut from what i have read. No fighter is going to agree to that, when they are also a huge reason for the draw. But back to the topic, and i apologise for getting it sidetracked, i think the 8oz gloves actually benefit floyd, he can shoot up before the fight, and his hands wont be an issue, its just going to make him faster. I honestly think floyds power is under-rated, as he has gotten older he is sitting down on his punches more

[Cshel86]

C'mon Run & Gun, spare us all the talks of about the 50/50 split and megafight. Im sure we've all died several deaths discussing it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[ks1]

In what way does that negate the fact that one man has made concessions to make the fight a reality while the other keeps coming up with reasons why it cant?

You missed the point. Any "concessions" Pac makes are subject to Arum's approval. It should be clear by now that Arum is the boss not Pac and he hasn't conceeded anything.

[BrutalBodyShots]

Doesn't matter if they are 8oz gloves, 10oz gloves, etc. They could fight with MMA gloves, pillows on their hands or anywhere in between and Mayweather will win, and win big.

[Cshel86]

You missed the point. Any "concessions" Pac makes are subject to Arum's approval. It should be clear by now that Arum is the boss not Pac and he hasn't conceeded anything.

Case closed...

[Run and Gun Game...]

Again sorry for bringing pac up in this discussion, this is going to be a very boring fight. Cotto is a very good A- fighter, but not in the elite level it takes to compete with floyd

[Cshel86]

No problem Run & Gun...