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daprofessor
post Mar 29 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (VJones @ Mar 29 2013, 02:44 AM) *
I'm with you on this one, Chi. Really no way to spin it. Because my mind, just as yours, continues to come back to the question of why did RG need to travel with a gun from state to state in the first place? Who or what is he afraid of?

It's all kinda...weird. But I've watched a few videos of them in camp (sparked by his father), talking all of this "vato this" and "we Guerros do real time" etc. and I'm wondering if these guys aren't drunk on this little bit of fame and having some real lapses of judgement. NYC is not Gilroy.


a gun, with two clips and no ammunition in a lock box? i haven't seen the videos you're talking about...but i seriously doubt he was taking it for protection. what's going to be telling is when/if they produce evidence of a photo shoot with the gun for some gun rights activists, or something to that effect, which is made up of christians/nra types. that is a very powerful lobby in the u.s. and if guerrero did indeed take photos for/with them, i expect them to have his back in this situation with their powerful attorneys. someone did drop the ball though on him traveling without knowing the law.
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post Mar 29 2013, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 29 2013, 02:32 PM) *
this is where our government fails us. they tell us, ignorance of the law is no excuse....but where are these laws posted? how do we know when they change? are we not a "united states of america?" the laws change by the minute...if i had to reference them for every step and move i make....am i really living in a free society???



That is an argument of states rights versus federal power. We are an association of free states with their own constitutions. There are maps that list the gun laws in each state plus if you google CCW reciprocity, you can get maps for which states recognize CCW permits from other states. Each states CCW website lists the states with whom they have reciprocity. I know that I can drive from my home state to visit friends in GA or my old college in FL, but I better have my weapon stowed away in the trunk while I am in Illinois. I know one of my guns, I can never transport in California. It is not some super weapon, but a standard .45 ACP, but it has a double stack magazine. They are snatching as many rights as possible in CA and NY, while other states are making it easier. We get the govt we deserve and if the people of those states think less freedoms will make them more safe, more power to them.
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post Mar 29 2013, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 29 2013, 05:23 AM) *
Why don't we wait and see if this "case" even makes it to a trial and isn't taken care of behind closed doors before we start speculating on how many hours of solitary confinement Robert is likely facing ?


the thing that i know from all my years of life on this planet in the good ol' U.S. of A is that all laws are not applied equally. i think it's bullshit...especially having been the victim of racism more than once in my life.

robert is going to get a pass. mark my words.

i will be interested to know how state law and federal law plays out in this. i know ny has some tough gun laws....but robert isn't a ny resident. that will all play out in its time. for now...i'll focus on the fight.
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post Mar 29 2013, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (scdrking2 @ Mar 29 2013, 02:26 PM) *
Bloomberg is spending millions of his own money to fight America's rejection of his draconian gun policies as a front man for his fellow elite. NO WAY he lets RG get anything less than the average of what others get in NYC for similar charges. He just spent millions backing a lady running for Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat in Chicago who was running against someone who was open to changing Illinois gun laws, but had no chance of winning for other reasons. He has committed millions in funds to fight pro gun candidates in other states.

If convicted, I see his only hope to stay on the streets is Golden Boy throwing their money behind appeals attacking the constitutionality of NYC gun laws. If I am RG, I try to stall this case as long as possible and make an extra million to be able to fund appeals. He should also appeal to the NRA and the pro gun lobby to see if his case would make a good test case to take to the federal courts.

FYI.....I am not a lawyer nor have a legal background.


my guess is they're going to rally behind him on this one if he was out in virginia doing photo shoots with them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) the thing i don't get....why didn't they let him know when he left? someone failed him for not informing him. or maybe...he thought he knew better? in any case, robert fits the bill of a typical member....white, christian...living in rural 'mericuh.
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post Mar 29 2013, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 28 2013, 11:11 PM) *
Well he was the one that informed the officials that he had a gun. So it was most likely an honest mistake. The majority of people on this board are just biased against him because of the Jesus comments


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post Mar 29 2013, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (VJones @ Mar 29 2013, 02:44 AM) *
I'm with you on this one, Chi. Really no way to spin it. Because my mind, just as yours, continues to come back to the question of why did RG need to travel with a gun from state to state in the first place? Who or what is he afraid of?

It's all kinda...weird. But I've watched a few videos of them in camp (sparked by his father), talking all of this "vato this" and "we Guerros do real time" etc. and I'm wondering if these guys aren't drunk on this little bit of fame and having some real lapses of judgement. NYC is not Gilroy.


His argument makes no sense, you went from Cali to Va with the gun, you was wrong then. To add onto that you take it to NY who don't give 2 shits about throwing your ass in jail for any little thing

It was a dumb thing to do on his part. I hope he makes it out of this but no one can provide any viable fact to him beating the charge other then GB throwing some serious muscle behind him and that doesn't guarantee he'll beat the case. Plaxico played in NY and had a permit and he went to jail, look what they did to them rappers, Prodigy, Ja rule who just got out, and Wayne. All these cats got more money then RG and RG is a unknown in the world. What does he have that can get him out of the situation besides GB. Celebs beat cases and gets special treatment, not people whose fans are somewhere in the 600's

In NY they'll lock you up for the dumbest shit but you supposed to know WTF you doing when you doing it/ No matter what they're gun laws are, Robert made a conscious decision to bring that gun to NY. He has to deal with the consequences of his actions for better or for worse. I hope he just gets probation to teach him a lesson but NY's history with this kind of thing is making me see some jail time in his future
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post Mar 29 2013, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 29 2013, 11:17 PM) *
Name names. don't sneak diss


I don't need to name names, looking at the posts its pretty obvious who likes him and who doesn't. Not even a diss, just a pretty obvious fact
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post Mar 29 2013, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Mar 29 2013, 06:26 PM) *
His argument makes no sense, you went from Cali to Va with the gun, you was wrong then. To add onto that you take it to NY who don't give 2 shits about throwing your ass in jail for any little thing

It was a dumb thing to do on his part. I hope he makes it out of this but no one can provide any viable fact to him beating the charge other then GB throwing some serious muscle behind him and that doesn't guarantee he'll beat the case. Plaxico played in NY and had a permit and he went to jail, look what they did to them rappers, Prodigy, Ja rule who just got out, and Wayne. All these cats got more money then RG and RG is a unknown in the world. What does he have that can get him out of the situation besides GB. Celebs beat cases and gets special treatment, not people whose fans are somewhere in the 600's

In NY they'll lock you up for the dumbest shit but you supposed to know WTF you doing when you doing it/ No matter what they're gun laws are, Robert made a conscious decision to bring that gun to NY. He has to deal with the consequences of his actions for better or for worse. I hope he just gets probation to teach him a lesson but NY's history with this kind of thing is making me see some jail time in his future


if he was wrong then he would have been arrested in virginia...right?

i hear what you're saying...but again....his gun was unloaded in a lock box and he made them aware of it. he wasn't in a strip club with it fully loaded in his waist band...and he didn't shoot himself. i thought it was bullshit that PB got jail time for shooting himself...but his circumstance and RG's circumstance are totally different. i can't speak on lil wayne, ja rule or prodigy...but they should have locked them up for being wack emcees. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i'm jussayin. what were the circumstances with their charges?
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 29 2013, 06:43 PM) *
I don't need to name names, looking at the posts its pretty obvious who likes him and who doesn't. Not even a diss, just a pretty obvious fact


But why do they have to dislike him to express an opinion on him? I think it's some hypocrites running round...I was talking to people who workout at the gym I trains fighters out of and All i was hearing was at least he didn't do what Broner did. The same way you think people don't like RG for those reasons I can easily say the same about people on here that's posting in this thread that give Broner shit. And if it's one thing I can't stand it's a hypocrite. If your going to laugh and ridicule other sports figures like AB for the stuff he does then Guerrero doesn't deserve a pass because he's down with Jesus

I grew up an was taught to have morals and principles and I am a man of DEEP morals and principles and belief in GOD. None of us can judge RG, only God can do that but no one is above being criticized, there is a big difference between the two. Guerrero is a good fighter not a great fighter IMO he's far from being a great fighter. I like his attitude as far as his approach to the sweet science but it's the way of the world, no one likes to be preached to or have a bible thumper in their face. He seems to be one, people accept Ward, Tebow, etc. It's no coincidence why they don't accept the same from RG. Look at his approach to the situation, it reeks of foolishness but he getting passes from people who believe he has a chance to beat Floyd

I've never liked Bible thumpers, I'll be the first to admit that. I believe in God and God is good all the time, but people aren't and RG just showed that he's no different from the rest. I see your point and I respect it but I just don't agree that people are saying stuff because they dislike him. I don't get how you can dislike someone you've never personally met any way. I think he's being justly scrutinized on the "IMAGE" he's put out to the public and what happened in NY and rightly so. No one is above this and anyone who believes so is mentally delusional
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post Mar 29 2013, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 29 2013, 06:54 PM) *
if he was wrong then he would have been arrested in virginia...right?

i hear what you're saying...but again....his gun was unloaded in a lock box and he made them aware of it. he wasn't in a strip club with it fully loaded in his waist band...and he didn't shoot himself. i thought it was bullshit that PB got jail time for shooting himself...but his circumstance and RG's circumstance are totally different. i can't speak on lil wayne, ja rule or prodigy...but they should have locked them up for being wack emcees. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i'm jussayin. what were the circumstances with their charges?


VA aint NY bro and you know that. VA is not that long of a drive to NY either, how do we know he flew from VA to NY. There's no way you can slice it because common sense is on the side of those who choose to use it. He effed up big time and he might have to do some time behind it, I'd actually be surprised if he didn't get jail time behind because NY take that shit seriously

And how you call Prodigy wack? Mobb Deep? I can't agree with that lol

Prodigy was pulled over for a gun that wasn't even his and members of his group said that they was going to let him go if he gave them dirt on 50. Ja Rule got caught up not paying taxes and he had an unloaded 357 I believe and they gave that man years and he's just now getting out. The most effed up one was Wayne wack ass lol. The gun belonged to his manager but because it was Wayne's tour bis he went to jail for a little over a year. That's the kind of bullshit they do in NY.

RG should walk IMO because he told them he had it, he was honest the whole time and it seems like that Queens prosecutor is just being a dick about the whole thing. Again, RG is going to need to pull a rabbit out of his hat from a legal standpoint to beat this thing clearly. They just don't play that there, and he got caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time
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