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May 16 2009, 12:24 AM
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BANNED IN THE USA Group: Banned Posts: 3,484 Joined: 30-June 04 Member No.: 1,018 |
Factoring everything and not just the quality of opposition? I'd say Hopkins, easy.
In terms of resume', I'd say almost even. It's because prior to becoming a "coward", Mayweather has in his resume some great fights. Overall, Hopkins! |
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May 16 2009, 06:53 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 29-January 05 Member No.: 1,603 |
you can argue that hopkins vs. taylor is 1 and 1 but hopkins was an old man also.... no way jermain taylor beats the hopkins of the late 90's.... he gets ko'd and the fight is not even close... hokins changed his fighting style to prolong his career... a younger hopkins would have beat taylor, no doubt. but a younger hopkins did lose to roy jones. |
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May 16 2009, 06:59 PM
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As far as Im concerned, an older Hopkins beat Taylro twice AND Calzaghe. A very YOUNG Hopkins lost a decision to Roy Jones, but in my opinion, it was far from any sort of domination.
Hopkins has the better career and better resume. Not questioning Floyd's athleticism and skill, but he has done more to avoid greatness than to seek it out. The fucking guy eeks out a decision to ODLH, and these days talks as if he fucking dominated him. Hopkins, on the other hand, arguably didnt lose a round to DLH. As for Corales, I mean, I love Chico, but he was B cal. |
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May 16 2009, 07:05 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 21-March 05 From: NYC Member No.: 1,953 |
I'm going to go with Hopkins. He has won fights that many boxing experts did not expect him to win like Tito, Tarver and Pavlik. He did lose to Taylor and Joe Cal but I remember watching the fights thinking how easily a prime BHop would have won them. I love Floyd, but hasn't taken any risks lately and until he fights and beats Mosley, Cotto and Pac I can't say he has a better resume. |
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May 16 2009, 07:41 PM
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SKULLSPLITTER Group: Members Posts: 8,111 Joined: 15-March 06 Member No.: 4,665 |
Yeah...gotta give it to Hopkins as of right now...but if Mayweather pulls off the run I was talkin' about...beating JMM, Pac, then Mosley or Cotto...I think he'd noticeably take the lead....
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May 16 2009, 09:45 PM
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Super Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 26-March 05 Member No.: 1,990 |
For now it's Hops. Considering the calibre of opposition available to him, he has fought everyone in and around his weight class.
Floyd has a huge pool of good fighters surrounding him and has, thus far, chosen to work his way into BIG money. As far as the losses Hopkins has sustained versus Floyd's being undefeated: All of Hopkins recent losses (JT, Calzaghe) can be strongly disputed and are still argued to this day. Floyd has at least 2 fights where his wins can be disputed (JLC 1 and ODLH). While Floyd has moved from 130 to 154 through the course of his career, remember he started much younger than Hops and had grew into the weights in 5-7 pound increments. Hops, at 40, was still making 160. He then jumped 15 pounds in one shot and dominated the champ there. |
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May 17 2009, 03:59 AM
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Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 304 Joined: 21-April 09 From: Washington D.C. Member No.: 10,222 |
As far as Im concerned, an older Hopkins beat Taylro twice AND Calzaghe. A very YOUNG Hopkins lost a decision to Roy Jones, but in my opinion, it was far from any sort of domination. Hopkins has the better career and better resume. Not questioning Floyd's athleticism and skill, but he has done more to avoid greatness than to seek it out. The fucking guy eeks out a decision to ODLH, and these days talks as if he fucking dominated him. Hopkins, on the other hand, arguably didnt lose a round to DLH. As for Corales, I mean, I love Chico, but he was B cal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/no2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nea.gif) |
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May 17 2009, 10:46 AM
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Proud American Group: Members Posts: 4,872 Joined: 20-June 08 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 7,577 |
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May 17 2009, 11:42 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,860 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Chicago Member No.: 2,078 |
Hopkins, on the other hand, arguably didnt lose a round to DLH. What fight were you watching? As for Corales, I mean, I love Chico, but he was B cal. Mayweather KO'ing Corrales @ 130 is more impressive than Hopkins KO'ing DLH @ 160... |
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May 17 2009, 01:06 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 542 Joined: 29-January 05 Member No.: 1,603 |
You make it sound like thats a discredit. i'm just mentioning things i take into consideration when i'm comparing resumes. it's a little tough because b-hop is way past floyd in terms of where he is in his career. i think as far as the ratio of beating top fighters to fights goes they're pretty close. but then b-hop has some losses, so that makes me lean towards f-bomb. how about ranking the resumes of b-hop, floyd and jones? how do you guys have that? |
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