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daprofessor
post Aug 10 2012, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 10 2012, 08:45 PM) *
Only problem I have with Floyd sr is his attitude.his fighters leave him all the time and that says alot


there is definitely the ego thing. if they can look past his ego...he does amazing work.
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post Aug 10 2012, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 10 2012, 02:43 PM) *
i think nazim could help him....but i'm with cschel...i think he needs a more hands on approach and sr is the right guy for that. he'd be number 1 with sr...and sr will get him right immediately. he's going to show him his flaws immediately...and give him the solutions to fix them. floyd sr is underrated....and if u ask me, i've always thought he was lightyears ahead of freddie roach. i had the pleasure of watching floyd do his thing with ponchito bojado back in the day. bojado could have been something special if oscar didn't pull the plug on floyd sr working with him. i think amir has plenty to work with....and sr is the man to take him to the mountain top.

Thanks. Khan needs that hard training at this point, to hell with what his team/father/or whoever, thinks is best for him. Only Amir knows what he needs, he's the only one fighting, and as I said earlier, had it not been for Amir, most of those people wouldn't even be in his camp anyway.

If he or his team feels that "personalities" would clash, and their would be issues in regards to Amir getting upset and so on, then he may want to consider hanging them up. This is boxing, these guys are fighters, and they get paid pretty good money to fight, so I dont feel bad for any of them. Well, with the exception of Cotto...for some reason, that dude makes me feel bad for him when he takes a loss...cant really explain that shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyhow, none of those guys on Khan's team got stopped or outboxed in two consecutive fights, so their opinions should come second to his. All they did was pat him on the back afterwards and told him that it was going to be okay, with another long line of obligatory mess. A pat on the back and encouraging words will never make up for getting KTFO. There's a long mental process that one goes through after getting their ass kicked, and Khan undoubtedly went through it.
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post Aug 10 2012, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Aug 10 2012, 09:13 PM) *
Thanks. Khan needs that hard training at this point, to hell with what his team/father/or whoever, thinks is best for him. Only Amir knows what he needs, he's the only one fighting, and as I said earlier, had it not been for Amir, most of those people wouldn't even be in his camp anyway.

If he or his team feels that "personalities" would clash, and their would be issues in regards to Amir getting upset and so on, then he may want to consider hanging them up. This is boxing, these guys are fighters, and they get paid pretty good money to fight, so I dont feel bad for any of them. Well, with the exception of Cotto...for some reason, that dude makes me feel bad for him when he takes a loss...cant really explain that shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Anyhow, none of those guys on Khan's team got stopped or outboxed in two consecutive fights, so their opinions should come second to his. All they did was pat him on the back afterwards and told him that it was going to be okay, with another long line of obligatory mess. A pat on the back and encouraging words will never make up for getting KTFO. There's a long mental process that one goes through after getting their ass kicked, and Khan undoubtedly went through it.


i agree. his team doesn't know shit. they're just a bunch of family who think they have his best interest at heart. the more i think about it....the more i am convinced, floyd sr is definitely the way to go. khan will piss plenty of ppl off with that decision because of the whole floyd/pac and sr/roach thing....but i believe it's the best thing for him. look at what sr did for oscar. he seriously prolonged his career and i honestly believe sr would have had a much better plan for oscar than roach did. sr reminds me of all the cats i know back home who talk a gang of shit in the gym. it comes with the territory...and guess what? they know what the fuck they are talking about. khan can use some de-sensitizing. he would know that all that shit talking angel was doing was just that....shit talking. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 10 2012, 09:22 PM
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oh yeah...he should get rid of that bullshit ass "strength and conditioning coach" that he had that made him all top heavy and bulky.
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post Aug 11 2012, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 10 2012, 07:48 PM) *
there is definitely the ego thing. if they can look past his ego...he does amazing work.


True indeed professor. I think the best thing Floyd sr. can bring to Khan's camp is the strict regimen he keeps his fighters on. He all ways says that it's his way of doing things and it's the fighters way of doing things, I like that about him and I feel Khan could benefit from somebody keeping him in line in addition to putting in the necessary training time with him
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post Aug 11 2012, 11:47 PM
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As somebody mentioned, Floyd Sr. keeps losing fighters because they cant deal with his attitude and so forth. It's painfully obvious and true that these new age fighters aren't build to be profressional fighters who are destined for greatness.

If you look at the by product of Sr.'s attitude and strict training, you'll see the #1 fighter in the world, not to mention the richest fighter in the world. Most of the guys that Sr. has worked with or left, amounted to nearly nothing (excluding Dawson).

So again, these new age fighters have more to prove to themselves, than to the world. Most of these guys try to go from A to Z within the first few years of their careers, and damn near retire when they lose 1 or 2 fights, smh. I'm sure Khan will make the right decision in regards to trainers, and hopefully he sticks with it.
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post Aug 12 2012, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 11 2012, 03:22 AM) *
oh yeah...he should get rid of that bullshit ass "strength and conditioning coach" that he had that made him all top heavy and bulky.


that was all down to Khan and his ego, I remember in the Judah weigh in he was saying to Ariza doesn't he look built or whatever, and it was obvious that that's what he wanted to look like, a superstar.
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post Aug 13 2012, 07:59 AM
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I think Khan should also get back to Alex Ariza, or at least get a new S&C coach. For a guy who usually is the thinner guy, he didn't go up in weight looking chiseled. Looks like he put on pounds the wrong way. His last couple of fights, he's looked like Marquez vs Floyd. He should be ripped. Not bulky, but cut up.
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